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The pizza box example was originally presented as part of an ask for clarification on "tangible value" and something we could probably add if that was a need/want.
This is a v2 of a previous prop, so we should expect there to be similarities with the original. Ideally, we can all recognize how much more defined and inclusive of the other adjacent nounish brands this v2 revision is, and we'd still like to add more. As a knowledge share, i'd love to see other examples of nouns props (besides nounstown 2024) that have tried to integrate as many different nounish entities in the specific ways that we will attempt to do here. Dreamland is more than just skateboarding and has endless crossover potential between multiple builder focus' like skateboarding and music...coffee...eSports...plants...art...and of course, tech.
If we'd like to more thoroughly refine details on achieving event specifics, that's a great note and absolutely heard! To what depth do these things get itemized though? Is it a screw for screw thing from the woodworkers or are rough estimates acceptable? Will we be counting pepperoni or is a quote from the pizza shop enough? Looking at some of the other nouns props, one liner category estimates appear to be acceptable, which is where this formatting was referenced.
In general, I think there needs to be some grace for event producers in this space to create a great experience and make it make it memorable for the whole. If everything gets programmed out, would a flex budget be allowed for fun surprises? Or are we to expect everything to be executed to as is? If there are any proposal budget guidelines that nouns adheres too, happy to reformat. Just let us know!
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> It would incredibly helpful to those of us that are working the project if we could also attempt to offer solutions when criticizing intentions. For example, what does tangible value look like? As an outsider to nouns, I’m trying to make sense of what the expectation was to involve Bob in the first place if it wasn’t meant to be an inflection point to onboard more of his peers. The addition of notable OGs that are important to the legacy of skateboarding should be seen as a win, just on the basis that they are interested in coming to play with us at all. If we are looking for tangible value as opposed to networked value, the media pieces and stories produced at this event should fulfill that request. If we are looking for more of a nounish physical product that people can take away as a collectable…see the pizza box collaboration example as a means to open our minds to different possibilities.
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> I encourage all of the OGs AND new nouns to vote for / with the culture and see that this isn’t your everyday nouns prop. The invited persons and nounish entities on display should act as both a means of proliferating the meme while also adding accountability to help uplift each other to be successful.
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> > I am not supportive of using treasury funds to upgrade a pro skater's private playground.
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> > Adding a bunch OGs and names like HBO, Thrasher, etc... to help the prop pass instead of creating tangible value for the DAO is a -10 points from me.
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> > The amounts dedicated to impact make it seem like they're afterthoughts and weak attempts to impact/ greenwash this prop to push it forward. They simply don't align with the prop.
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> > Overall, I do not think Bob's endeavors create meaningful impact or growth for our ecosystem. We really need to avoid getting finessed by namedropping big brands and names that don't join the space or result in a real collab.
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> > I encourage all of the OGs to stop voting with nostalgia and focus on real impact that can result in builders and bidders.
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