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hey wylin, just carefully read your comments.
So are u implying that we are fabricating the existence of a school with a faculty and student body numbering in the hundreds, or suggesting that CAFAIC has closed down, or that it has no affiliation with CAFA?
As the saying goes, seeing is believing. How about me invite you to visit CAFAIC in person? I would be happy to cover the flight. You would have the opportunity to record a video on-site rather than relying on outdated online information to make assumptions and judgments. If needed, I can also arrange for school leadership to provide a brief introduction on the relationship between CAFAIC and CAFA.
Allow me to address your key concerns with a few simple facts following:
The "央美院发〔2023〕41 号" document, in its first chapter, Article 2, clearly states that the state owns the national assets of the school's affiliated enterprises. CAFAIC is a fully owned institution by CAFA, operated as its asset management entity.
http://xxgk.cafa.edu.cn/cafa//uploadFiles/uploadImgs//202310/24100957gnnz.pdf
CAFA is the only higher education art school directly under the Ministry of Education of of China, and CAFAIC is a formal institution fully controlled by CAFA. If you continue to question the affiliation between CAFAIC, Beijing Central Academy of Fine Arts Asset Management Co., and CAFA, I suggest that you directly visit the National Enterprise Credit Information Publicity System (shiming.gsxt.gov.cn) for verification.
While you may not be able to access it as a foreigner, I am willing to provide my ID so you can log in, and I can connect with you via video for verification. You can even record and post this process on your Wrapcast if you wish.
DM u only to facilitate sending screenshots. It would be even better if the camp had an image function. I truly wish for everyone to be able to see these responses. Authentic information cannot be faked, and false information can never become true.
I appreciate your support for our previous proposals. However, given the current insinuations questioning my credibility, I feel it necessary to provide a detailed explanation.
Lastly I am serious about inviting you to visit Beijing for an on-site inspection, I enjoy making IRL new connections. and I welcome you to revisit CAFAIC when you have the opportunity to visit Beijing in the future.
I understand that this proposal will be defeat by large of misleading comments, but the relationship between CAFA and CAFAIC can still be verified 20 years from now.
Let time tell.
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> I did not use Google Maps to find BIBA, I simply googled the address shared in the proposal, which brought up the sources showed below, including a legal notice on BIBA’s website with the provided address. BIBA & CAFA’s campus are both searchable on Google by name.
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> the provided Baidu Maps link points to the exact same location as BIBA on Google maps. using the Street View functionality, and moving south to the intersection of Yufeng & Hush Roads, does reveal a location with signage labeled CAFA International College with imagery from January 2023. the location has a singular gated entrance and appears to be closed to the public.
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> this location is not referenced on the campus map at https://www.cafa.edu.cn/st/2018/60319599.htm, which does reference international student apartments at building 10. there are no links to cafaic.com on the cafa.edu site that I can find. There is an International Foundation Course which is mentioned among the departments offered at CAFA: http://ifc.cafa.edu.cn/2013ifc/en/. the IFC is described as being “for international students who wish to apply for bachelor degree program at CAFA,” at http://global.cafa.edu.cn/study/apply/; global.cafa being the URL you are redirected too upon clicking the English option on the main CAFA website
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> the link shared in response to 0x…7E25 makes no reference to an International College, only to the creation of an Asset Management company, which the cafaic.com link makes reference to.
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> while the report shared in response to byebyebye.eth does show “The International College of the Central Academy of Fine Arts is established by the Central Academy of Fine Arts and authorized by the Beijing Central Academy of Fine Arts Asset Management Co., Ltd.,” searching 院国际学院, - “International College” if the translators are working correctly - brings up 8 articles, one being the cited link, one mentioning a concrete exhibit by the International College, and 6 others are referring to an “International College Printmaking Alliance,” ie this announcement of it’s creation in 2016: https://www.cafa.edu.cn/st/2016/9018626.htm, which has a link in the footer of the cafa.edu site: https://iapa.cafa.edu.cn/iapa/
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> none of the American universities listed as partner institutions on the cafaic.com website make any reference to CAFA or CAFAIC on their own Study Abroad or Academic Partnership webpages, though some like DePaul do mention other Chinese universities. I’ll leave it to others to check the UK & European universities.
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> the most recent news articles on CAFAIC’s website are 12 months old. the announcements page has no updates since 2022. the “College Teachers” page lists one person. For the scrolling banner links on the home page, the first pink 2024 admissions guide link leads to a 404 page, the blue, 2nd pink. & blue/ yellow ones lead to a WeChat page which lead me to find to find 3 staff members on LinkedIn, two of which are using the #OpenToWork banner on their profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josie-roxanne-marchant-372890107/, https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjana-chandrasekhar/, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristy-studds-89270ab5/ + two other profiles which could not be viewed. the international youth exhibit in the scrolling banner links is from 2023. the Copyright has not been updated since 2020, unlike CAFA.edu’s current 2025 date.
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> sorry guys, I’ve been a fan of your previous work. the closed nature of the campus alone after seeing it on Google & Baidu Maps is enough to push me towards Against, compounded with everything above and I simply can’t support. whatever connection there is between CAFA & CAFAIC seems to be arm’s length at best.
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> so long as I’m able to share an opinionated vote, by principle I must vote on the merits of the proposal as I see them, not by personal affinity or by glossing over critical details because of past achievements. they say real friends talk shit to your face and say nice things behind your back
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> that said, please stop DM’ing + @‘ing me on Warpcast, X, and Discord. while I understand the anxiety of having a proposal onchain, being contacted by two people across 3 channels with a dozen+ notifications is excessive for me, and our governance clients are the chambers where this dialogue is most appropriate.
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> if my research is inaccurate, it is best that it be refuted here for voters to see than lost somewhere on the internet. I have no agenda other than the success & wellbeing of the DAO. this information is not fabricated as was alluded to on Warpcast, it simply took staying up past 6:30AM clicking links and translating to find it. If I’m wrong, I’ll be glad for others to disprove me
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> > Re: Wylin, google map search is unable to provide you an accurate indication on the map. (China internet censor-ship).
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> > We will soon post a tweet with three mainstream Chinese navigation results, along with photos and a video explaining the specific differences between the locations of BIBA and CAFAIC, All of this info is publicly available on internet.
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> > But if you were to use Baidu map (China Navigation), you could easily get the location of CAFAic now. (https://map.baidu.com/search/%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E5%B8%82%E9%A1%BA%E4%B9%89%E5%8C%BA%E5%90%8E%E6%B2%99%E5%B3%AA%E9%95%87%E8%A3%95%E6%B0%91%E5%A4%A7%E8%A1%971%E5%8F%B7/@12973024.125,4853731,19z?querytype=s&da_src=shareurl&wd=%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E5%B8%82%E9%A1%BA%E4%B9%89%E5%8C%BA%E5%90%8E%E6%B2%99%E5%B3%AA%E9%95%87%E8%A3%95%E6%B0%91%E5%A4%A7%E8%A1%971%E5%8F%B7&c=1&src=0&pn=0&sug=0&l=4&b=(-4138582.039999999,-2973099.25;27318697.96,11952724.75)&from=webmap&biz_forward=%7B%22scaler%22:1,%22styles%22:%22pl%22%7D&device_ratio=1)
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> > This prop is installing Noggle in CAFAic, NOT Bilingual Academy.
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> > p.s Bilingual Academy and CAFAic is separated by only 1 wall, they share a same address(will post a video on my later tweet)
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> > > a simple google search of the address shows multiple sources pointing it to the Beijing International Bilingual Academy, https://bibachina.org/, ~20-25km from CAFA
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> > > looking deeper, there does not appear to be any formal or informal connection between these Academies. unfortunate
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