I appreciate all the great vote reasons here. I'd like to see the team focus on a couple things--not sure I am sold on selling memberships. But I think they have gotten a lot done, have a good energy, and we should take a risk here. Especially given the tight timeline for the eclipse activation, which I think is the most exciting part :)
Appreciate the builders here and there time in thinking on this, but I'm not sure I agree with either the diagnosis or the remedy. I am skeptical that
1. The DAO should prioritize more props using streams
2. The new features proposed would move the needle on stream adoption
If someone is intent on not putting in the work, it's easy enough to post a Propdate and phone it in. And I don't think the DAO will ever vote to cancel a stream, except maybe in extreme cases. Further, would have liked to have seen more delivered from the team from the last funding we did re Propdates work.
IMO the incentive around Propdates should be more positive than punitive. They should be celebrated, and we should look to further back teams that have done a good job posting.
I like the project, but I think we need to see more traction before supporting an ask of this size. Looks like the first zine only has 16/50 minted. I'd also like to know the weekly/monthly active user numbers. Don't feel I can support spending a week + of auction proceeds on this based on what I know right now :)
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Echo the sentiment of others: I appreciate Joel and Nerman, but I do not think it warrants this increased funding, especially in the current circumstances.
I feel a little bad voting this way just here: I have felt this way about several other recent proposals but have had less time to be actively voting.
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Supriyo & Nouns Movie are doing great work and setting a best-in-class example for proposers to come: quality work, quality updates, incremental funding. Excited we get to be a part of this exciting work.
Tiny nit that for next funding I would prefer the whole work from the previous funding is released--in this case full chapter 2--so the DAO can accurately assess how things are going.
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Grateful to the DAO for the retro funding and appreciate all the kind vote reasons. [Sent 0.5 ETH](https://etherscan.io/tx/0xabdd388c4a8c00a5ec989a0f3a13a77b43b91a43d8918e4231c45e1feedda5e4) to zeth.eth for their help with the site.
Site continues to be used and runs with no overhead cost.
We're happy to see some of the features adopted by other Nouns DAO clients, like [nouns.camp](https://www.nouns.camp).
Stay Nounish; vote with reason.
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Love the Nounish folks. I am excited about their progress, and appreciate the update they posted but have several hesitations here.
1. I'd like to see a budget breakdown of how these funds will be spent. Naively, this new model seems like lower cost productions than previous work, but I'd like to understand.
2. Would like to see season 2 planned vs. actual budget. (Also, shouldn't current budget take through December?)
3. Beyond these, I'm just not sure the DAO currently can continue to support this spend every six months. It's a very large percent of our treasury, I haven't heard any plans for Nounish to wean off DAO funding, and I am not sure the cost is justified by the gains right now.
Happy to talk more about all of this and hope we can continue funding Nounish in some way.
Started opposed to the tax precedent here, but have been won over by those in favor. Thinking of it as a sort of mid-term compensation. Appreciate the Verbs team very much and look forward to them participating more fully in Nouns ♥️
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Appreciate responding to feedback here. I am FOR giving Nouns to standout contributors to the ecosystem, or perhaps just very Nounish people, and Bob seems to fit. Would prefer to run these through some kinda prop house so that we can knock out a bunch at once.
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I love these guys but I am not sure on this prop. Are we awarding Nouns for their work in Nouns, in general, or for this prop? If in general, why just these six grouped together? If for their work on this prop, what about others who have contributed Nouns heads in the past? Unless we decided on a rule like "contribute Noun head = get Noun," I don't see the justification here. I would like to have a clear meta for awarding Nouns and have it be very special. The categories I think of are (1) standout contributors to the DAO (2) uber successful props. I think that these six are possibly all standout contributors, but again then find it wrong to frame it under this prop.
The vote FOR I found most compelling is Seneca's
> sometimes in crypto you get rugged for your entire net worth, sometimes your community awards you with a beautiful noun for your contributions.
some very deserving folks in here.
and that perhaps we just want to do something Nounish/generous.
Seems this will pass, and I happy for these people, but need to vote my gut.
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propdates-20For me, Propdates is one of the most exciting things happening in Nouns right now. Funding its continued development is critical. The ask here is reasonable, and the team has done good work so far. Appreciate Martin staying nimble and trying to serve the DAO.
Appreciate the thoughtful discussion here so far and look forward to more in the coming weeks.
One way or another, the DAO is currently setup to "burn" money. Currently this burn is to arbitragers. I'm not sure if anyone has run the total on what was arbed out in the last for but I'd guess > $2M.
Something has to change.
There are several proposals. The alternatives I am aware of--things like capped exit, timelocking funds--have significant downsides.
Timelocking hurts honest actors: imagine honest forkers trying to leave have their funds cut by a DAO voting to lock the funds away.
Capped exit arbitrarily disadvantages certain nouners owners solely based on the price their noun was sold for at auction. It would warp the secondary market: nouns bought at a higher auction price are worth more. And why? Why does a secondary buyer of a Noun auctioned for a high price deserve more in a fork? Why is an honest actor who bought at a low price and wants to fork capped in how much they can take away?
Moreover the energy of these proposals is hyper focused on eliminating the arbitrage, which I fund uncharismatic. No one want to join a DAO that is primarily focused on not getting arbed.
With the burn, I think we have a chance to fix the arb, while actually being primarily focused on more exciting things. I would support the burn even if the arb was not an issue. Already I see the burn forcing healthy conversation on things that were already issues, like, "What if it just amounts to a new round of funding to past proposers?" If the DAO is captured by past proposers, I'd like to know sooner than later! And the burn is creating efforts to break out to new proposer audiences.
The assumption of the opposition is that having more time leads to better outcomes. Sometimes! Generally not in young organizations. Things tend to happen quickly or not at all. Slow often = dead. Nouns is not a hedge fund with a salaried staff. There is more at play. We need attention from the voters to do well. We need attention from proposers. Slow often means less attention. People stop caring. "Nothing is happening over there."
What's the downside of the burn? It's pretty capped in my opinion. The DAO can vote to remove it. The DAO can mitigate via rapidly distributing the treasury Nouns. There are lots of options.
But I think in the best case we get to test a theory: that Nouns spending more aggressively will lead to better outcomes. And not *just* trying haphazardly to spend more aggressively, but doing so in a legible context: voters and proposers alike know the DAO is highly incentivized to spend X by a certain date. This is super helpful for organizing in a decentralized context.
That's my thinking, eager to hear yours. Let's find the best path, together 🫡
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Appreciate the teams time on this proposal but I have repeatedly voted agains the DAO pursuing defi yield (including any sort of eth staking). I see it as a distraction and the more we do it the more time and energy we'll have to put into these types of proposals.
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nounishpunk-playable-demoI appreciate Arash and his continual enthusiasm. I am feeling positive on this and would consider sponsoring with a few changes:
- I don't love that the subtext of the storyline is possibly about the fork and hostile to some Noun holders. Would appreciate keeping it feeling positive sum, kind, and respectful. I don't think you need a big change here, maybe just a subtle tweak?
- can you get more specific about how the money will be spent? In particular would like to see some marketing plan.
Excited about this. It's weird and fun. Not 100% sure on the Noun compensation, but I appreciate the ask and think we should do if this project does well.
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The only way out is through.
Nouns cannot be stopped, so long as there are those who still believe.
We do future Nouners a service by ensuring their tools are robust: there is always a path for collective coordination with minimized frustration.
To the extent there is friction or capital lost to some possibly only seeking to enrich themselves in making this change, we are paying a price for lacking a more robust design at the outset. That's OK. These things are hard to anticipate, and in many ways we are lucky to have this problem.
And even those who came only seeking their own profit, they too have served the DAO, in the end. God bless you.
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Like others, I also would like to see more open efforts to update the Nouns art, but I do not think that precludes voting for this one.
Often times democracy and great art are at odds. If Nouns succeeds, I suspect it will become common for certain curatorial voices to come to the DAO with a set of heads to add, like this.
I love all of these and am grateful to the artists and curators.
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Very FOR making Droposals a paved road. Unsure about a second governance contract: I worry about getting the params right, and possibly increasing more overhead to understanding/keeping up with Nouns. But, minimally, support the experiment and will be glad to see the UI enhancements around this flow!
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Really glad to see this prop--glad voadz has stayed on this and kept working after archives.wtf props and feedback.
I really like this site. I can imagine using it often. I think this is a reasonable ask to keep exploring this. I *do* wish the deliverable were a bit more ambitious and clear. And am hoping there is to self sustaining or else minimal funding/low maintenance.
Good luck!
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my vote from 316
> Love these noggles and think it logistically makes sense to get a bunch of these upfront so that we have on hand.
As an aside, I really want to get a sort of "Nouns Event Kit" of various sizes that includes things from many of the wonderful makers in our community and can be ordered and shipped easily. Could even have a mini version just for personal orders :)
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I have repeatedly voted against staking, and I will do so again on this prop.
I do not think that the DAO should be pursuing small yield on its treasury. It exposes us to risk and opens up all kinds of debates that I think are a waste of DAO attention: should we have insurance, who should we stake with, etc.
I think the purpose of the DAO is to curate and empower (with funding) the global Nouns community. There are many competing and complementary ideas for what Nouns *is*, and we gradually discover the most compelling by funding various different versions and seeing the outcome.
I believe that the most exciting future for Noun is one in which Nouns are valuable because vote power is valuable because people are seeking for the DAOs approval and empowerment.
Personally, I do not think a DAO focused on small staking yield is a compelling vision of Nouns or good use of our time. If people want to stake, they are free to do so with their own ETH. I see small gain to the DAO in staking, outsized by the downside in the risks and time these kinds of proposals take.
Specifically here, many people seem to be voting for this in order to block the Prop 342. I do not think Prop 342 will pass, and I also think that we should focus on defeating proposals we think are bad, rather than pursuing round about ways that make it more difficult for the DAO to do things with its ETH.
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This proposal is very confusing and should be cancelled and resubmitted as multiple proposals.
1. Mandate NAC send Noun 252 to Dustin Yellin Studio
2. Request DAO send 50 ETH to Dustin Yellin Studio (NAC does not exist as some fallback protection for proposers to get promised funds from DAO)
3. Dissolve NAC (? That seems to be the subtext here, but it's not clear.)
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Want to first reference my vote from the previous Prop 209
> I think this is a reasonable funding ask for work that I find to be charismatic and fun. I think it is Nounish and like that the projects runs against the Effective Altruist trend. I am not sure how I feel over the long run about a social impact platform being reliant on the DAO for funding, but there are many other such orgs in the Nouns ecosystem right now so I'm trying to keep an open mind! Best of luck!
From the Discord conversation I gather that most, if not all, of the work promised in the last prop was done. Am glad to hear! Though I wish that could have been highlighted more clearly in the prop, and we could see artifacts of those stories, as a good amount of the budget went to film and photo crews.
I think the learnings here are good, though I am a little leary of the impulse to scale and go bigger. Something that I have liked so far about the work is the "small is big" feeling. I love the barbershop story: allowing people to do something fun and interesting and self directed is more exciting than charity. I am excited about the member led activations outlined.
Overall, my current understanding of Nouns DAO is that the DAO functions to help facilitate running the idea maze of "What is the most compelling identity and direction for these CC0 assets?" "What is the most exciting story for Nouns?" We do this by stampings things as "Nounish" by funding them and/or partnering in content releases.
Today there are several varying and coherent answers to the question, "What should Nouns fund?": art, social impact, public goods, CC0, governance tools, the list goes on.
So, though I am not 100% certain the direction proposed in this prop is the best, I trust the team. I think they are good people who care a lot about Nouns, and who have done charismatic work to date. I think Much Love is pulling an important thread in the "What is Nouns?" conversation that few other funded projects are, and I'm excited to see where it goes.
Best of luck 🫡
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I have gone back and forth on this one. We have to vote on the proposals we have, not the ones we wish we had. I am biased to vote for imperfect proposals if I feel it's net net +EV. But I don't think I can get there on this one. I think we do a lot better.
- This reads to me like a redo of the launch Pudgy already did, but now with noggles. And the cost is super high: $299. Honestly I don't think there will be a lot of demand.
- I find the gold plating kinda cringe and not Nounish, and the fact that that is specifically where our funds are going bums me out. Also not clear what the golden ticket does/means?
- No revenue shared back--which I am possibly OK with, as I think we gain more from their reach in IRL goods than they do from our cobranding--but I think DAO stamp is valuable and we should be looking for some return. There is a vague promise to put a % of proceeds back to buying a Noun.
Things I would be a lot more excited about
- A co-sponsored Nouns x Pudgy Open Edition Drop. Have seen some really fun Nouns Pudgy art that we could use. Maybe ever N could be redeemable for a toy?
- Let's just give toys away! Ask the DAO for a $100k and we'll do Pudgys with Noggles and give them away.
Super grateful to the Pudgy team for their time and interest in working with us. I am a Pudgy holder myself! Hope we can do something great.
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Has been fun to track this so far: seems the team has done well starting something fun and interesting on their own, and I'm excited for Nouns to get involved. So I'm a yes, but a few thoughts
1. I think it would be best to stay focused: this product is barely started. Seems not worth getting sidetracked with new product categories.
2. The biggest ask here is marketing spend, and I'm not sure that feels the most high leverage? Again, seems team is doing well so I defer to them, but it seems like a sort of internet native, CC0 brand should leverage its organic and grassroots reach and try to stay cheap on the marketing spend. Would funding be better spent on hard fixed costs like production, shipping, storage, etc.?
3. Related to 2., think about how you can best leverage your online fans! There's probably a LOT of people who could help get this into local spots around the world, can you find a way to empower your community?
Excited to see what comes!
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reVoteWithReason from 0xfc218f
> (noun40 voting via agora proxy)
we've turned down a few nft conference sponsorship tied props from local nouns' communities and asked for something more independent and specific to nouns. this feels like that kind of prop to me. feels organic and grassroots from the korean community and I'm supportive of this energy.
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Martin is a talented builder who has already done a lot for Nouns. I personally have wanted a product like Mogu for sometime, and I think it is off to a promising start. This is a very reasonable ask for three months of full time work on it.
It's dev szn at Nouns DAO! Good luck Martin!
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# Nounify Korea - stamp collection campaign
*Proposer note: I am happy be helping @fiveoceans_dev, @jheeart_nft, and @_duckhead get this onchain. I think this is a fun, sort of grassroots, small-is-big proliferation effort from a team that is highly committed to Nouns and has done quality work in the past.*
### TL;DR
- We propose to launch a stamp-collecting campaign to nounify Korea.
- Our primary objective is to establish Nouns as a prominent pop culture brand.
- By collaborating with coffee shops and utilizing Nouns' CC0 content, we can maximize Nouns' exposure and provide incentives for fans.
- To achieve this, we kindly request $65,000 or around $4,600 per location to promote nouns at 10+ coffee shops, 2 retail stores, and 2 art galleries over the next three months.
### Description
We have observed the success of Nouns' flywheel in Brazil, China, Japan, and other communities. We propose to launch activation campaign in Korea in collaboration with ten authentic coffee shops. This campaign aims to educate people about nouns and engage them in the process. Participants will collect noggle-stamps and have the chance to earn stylish nounish t-shirts as rewards.
Our team firmly believes in our energy and talent to establish Nouns as a prominent pop culture brand in Korea. The campaign will span three months, during which people will receive noggle-stamps with their coffee purchases. Once they collect 10 stamps, they can exchange a coupon card for a nounish t-shirt.
To ensure widespread exposure, all coffee shops will display posters, t-shirts, and magazines featuring on-chain proposals. Furthermore, these t-shirts will be available for purchase at retail stores and art galleries. We are committed to creating high-quality t-shirts using nounish cc0 content, with additional approval from the artists involved.
For the successful activation of the nouns community in Korea and the promotion of Nouns in 10+ locations over three months, we kindly request $65,000 in funding.
### The stamp collection campaign
The campaign will focus on creating visibility, engaging local community, and establishing a loyal fan base. The coffee shops will become a place for people to gather and learn about nouns through arts on t-shirts and information in magazines.
Coupon cards featuring nouns will be distributed at the coffee shops' counters. We anticipate each coffee shop to distribute around 50-30 coupon cards daily, totaling approximately 27,000 cards throughout the campaign. In our focused campaign, we will give out special coupon cards that need only 2 stamps to people who are interested in blockchain and NFTs through our network of friends.
### T-shirts
T-shirts will be placed in highly visible areas at coffee shops. We'll use Nouns' cc0 content to create a beautiful collection of t-shirts. Our goal is to pleasantly surprise everyone with the quality and spirit of nounish artworks. These t-shirts will be made from scratch specifically for this campaign from high-quality materials and tailored in various styles for both men and women. Each label and tag will feature Noggles and links to Noun's homepage and Twitter account.
We will strategically strive to get the t-shirts in the hands of pop stars, actors, musicians, and models.
The t-shirts will be the same as those for prop173, 'Sail in NY,' that received praise from the community for their quality.
### NOUNS.WTF magazine
We propose creating a NOUNS.WTF magazine as a powerful marketing and storytelling tool to convey the campaign's message. The magazine will be cost-effective to design using Canva templates and nounish CC0 content. The magazines will be distributed at partner coffee shops and serve as a guide to NounsDAO.
The magazine will feature articles about:
- campaign
- t-shirt collection
- top on-chain proposals
- nounish subdaos
- overview of government clients.
- We invite individuals and subdaos to contribute to the magazine's creation. Contact us on Twitter to publish an article or a post ([Nouns Seoul](https://twitter.com/nounsseoul)).
### Coffee shops and other partner properties
We are going to collaborate with authentic coffee shops around Seoul. Here are the links to coffee shops located in popular areas such as [Jeongno](https://www.instagram.com/cha.teul/), [Itaewon](https://www.instagram.com/theroyalfad/), and [Sinsa](https://www.instagram.com/minoscoffeecult/). Additionally, we are going to sell t-shirts at popular [Fashion and lifestyle](https://www.instagram.com/niceweather.seoul/) goods stores and [art galleries](https://www.instagram.com/print_bakery/).
As of now, we onboarded three coffee shops, one retail store, and one art gallery. We can rest of the partner properties recruited in no time.
### Why Korea
Korea is known for its collection of cool nounish items, ranging from sailboats, resin toys, and children's books to motorcycles. In line with this, our goal is to unite and provide a firsthand experience to an increasing number of Nouns' fans. We believe that the timing is ideal to launch a nounish campaign, aiming to showcase the beautiful aspects of Nouns' art, culture, and governance. This initiative will not only attract a larger base of devoted fans but also facilitate the discovery of new nounish memes and contribute to the advancement of nounish culture.
### Timeline
The campaign is scheduled to commence in July and continue until October. The team estimates that it will require approximately 3-4 weeks to complete all the necessary preparations.
1 week - legal matters
1 week - coffee shop recruitment
1 week - decorations/logistics
3 weeks - manufacture 2,000 t-shirts
3 weeks - design and print NOUNS.WTF magazine
### The team
1. **[Fiveoceans_dev](https://twitter.com/fiveoceans_dev)** t-shirts manufacturing and distribution
2. **[Morph](https://www.instagram.com/morphmgmt/)** - legal matters and work with coffee shops.
3. **[Jhee](https://twitter.com/jheeart_nft)** NOUNS.WTF magazine
4. **[Duckhead](https://twitter.com/_duckhead)** coffee shops decorations
### Budget
$35,000 - manufacture 2,000 t-shirts (custom tags with noggles, different styles, artwork press, packaging)
$10,000 - coffee shops' rental fees (10 coffee shops, 3 months, $330 per month)
$4,000 - NOUNS.WTF magazine design and printing
$2,500 - logistics & storage (Ex. 100 t-shirts weight 22 kg or 48 pounds)
$2,500 - legal, tax, signing contracts with coffee shops, outsourcing company's fees to conduct business etc
$3,000 - decorations $300 per coffee shop (10 t-shirt stands, 100 posters, 10 noggle stamps, 27,000 coupon cards, and others)
$2,000 - photo & video production to document progress and share on SNS
$6,000 - team's compensation. Four people working with coffee shops, designs, and coordinating campaign.
**Total $65,000**
Nouns-Seoul multi-sig
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Love these noggles and think it logistically makes sense to get a bunch of these upfront so that we have on hand.
As an aside, I *really* want to get a sort of "Nouns Event Kit" of various sizes that includes things from many of the wonderful makers in our community and can be ordered and shipped easily. Could even have a mini version just for personal orders :)
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Voting FOR as I believe this is exciting content and an important experiment in funding and building that Nouns should absolutely lean into.
Really, really appreciate this team and the care and effort they are putting in. Love having a schedule and plan, and to now see how we're moving along it. The team has also been working in a very open way, trying to involve Nouners as much as possible.
As a tiny aside suggestion, I would like to see some more *Nouns* feature in the story, aside just noggles. [Rookswater's novel](https://rookswater.blogspot.com/2023/06/the-nominal-hero-ch-5.html) has been inspiring imagining.
Good luck!
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Grateful to the Cozy team for this proposal, but I am against. I have previously voted against staking ETH, at all.
I do not think the DAO is optimized to make these kinds of risk and yield decisions. If we are concerned about depegs at all, I think we should just hold ETH. I am sympathetic to the point that voting on things like this is not a great use of the DAO's time.
I *do* want to see the DAO support important DeFi work where it can make sense, though. To be honest, I think I would be more open to just doing benevolence grants for co-marketing or something like that, rather than actually using our treasury in DeFi.
My vote on [Proposal 217: Stake additional 5000 ETH in Lido](https://nouns.wtf/vote/217)
> I think that using the treasury to earn yield is a slippery slope and is a path we should avoid. The treasury should be used to fund Nounish ideas. We should not be seeking 5% yield opportunities but rather opportunities to 10x or 100x the number of people who know of Nouns, 10x or 100x people's passion for Nouns, 10x or 100x Nounish organizations' or creators' resources, etc. I see seeking treasury yield through DeFi as a distraction from these other things and think it is outside the DAO's mandate.
I also worry that putting the treasury to work earning yield will make people less inclined to spend the treasury when I would prefer something of the upset approach: burn "stale" treasury ETH past a certain date as an incentive to "us it or lose it."
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I am excited about funding some kind of Nouns zine, perhaps an annual recap, but not super into funding something covering the whole NFT space. Feels like the kinda thing that could easily be funded via NFT-pre orders, if people are interested. Good luck and thanks for your time!
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Am excited to vote FOR this proposal, and want to use my vote to flesh out some of my thinking on the topic of how I think about developing the DAO, code-wise.
I would prefer that Nouns onchain code changes are driven in two ways:
1. The DAO decides that it wants to make some changes, and then solicits quotes or runs a prop house for ideas on how to implement the change.
2. Teams make direct proposals to the DAO on code changes *they* think should be made, and the DAO funds them to work on it.
In either case, I think the DAO should be driving changes and should generally be voting on a per feature basis.
I dislike funding teams in an open ended way for a few reasons
1. I think it becomes unclear to outsiders what is and isn't being worked on, and how they can get involved. Anything important to the DAO will be taken on by a funded team with an open mandate. Which in a way is great: talented people are ready to work on stuff! But I also think can feel like capture of the codebase.
2. I am not sure how much the DAO code should be changing, and on what frequency. If teams are funded to work on stuff, they’ll find stuff to do, but it’s not guaranteed that the DAO would vote to have each of those things worked on, if it was up to them.
3. Finally, it often ends up that features get bundled together in updates, and it makes it hard for DAO members to make voting decisions.
That all said, there are practicalities at play. Most good devs want some stability. They do not want to need to get funding feature to feature. And also, due to the nature of how smart contracts are developed, it is efficient to bundle things into a single audit.
So, to the case at hand. With Verbs we have great devs, who have been with Nouns nearly since the start, and have done great work. The pay is high, but is on par for staff engineer levels of salary + equity, and I think high pay is to be expected for the uncertain nature of this job (will you get funded again in six months?) and the lack of things like health benefits.
I read this proposal and think it mostly falls in category (2) above—“Teams make direct proposals to the DAO on code changes *they* think should be made, and the DAO funds them to work on it.” I think an NFT-first governor is important, I think seeing through the Fork is important, tips to governance clients, undo votes, and price oracle would be nice to have!
So, I think we have a good thing going and I think it makes sense to fund the development of the work proposed. I know Verbs team is highly interested in figuring out the best way to develop the DAO, so I look forward to working with them to figure this all out!
As a small practical suggestion, I wonder if we could start the practice of allowing the DAO to vote on each feature included in an audit, and possibly even just reserve an audit slot every six months that many teams can get code into?
Thanks David and Elad for all you do!
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I like Arash and many of the videos he helps make, but I am a no on this one. The channel is getting some good views and seems to be earning ad revenue on its own. The goal is to get 15 monetized videos to get to sustainability, and the channel already has 8 and has recently been releasing more than 1 per week! Given these factors, I don't think the ask for $60k makes sense. And even without these factors, I do not think I would support such a large ask for this sort of sing along type content.
I might support a lower ask, or funding more more unique, high touch content. Like videos with story lines. Perhaps some funding with an ad revenue split could be interesting, but gets a bit sticky to try to figure that out/prove revenues, etc.
Wish you good luck and am glad the channel is seeing success!
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# Retro Fund Voter.wtf
**tl;dr** Retro fund 10 ETH to Wilson Cusack (proposer) for work on Nouns governance client, [voter.wtf](https://www.voter.wtf/).
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*Background*
*Motivation*
*Traction*
*Ask*
## Background
Two months ago, I started work on [voter.wtf](https://www.voter.wtf/). I wanted to create speedy, vote-with-reason-focused governance client for Nouns. 30k+ lines of code later, it is minimally fully featured and well loved.
voter.wtf has pioneered several unique features
- Homepage features a timeline of all votes across proposals.
- Proposal pages feature side by side FOR and AGAINST votes, for easy comparison and context setting.
- Votes can be "liked" via web3 wallet signature.
- Non delegates, in addition to delegates, can vote on any proposal.
- At glance view of which props you have voted on and which you still need to.
- reVoteWithReason: quickly vote with reason by quoting someone else's reason in your vote.
([Twitter roundup of these features](https://twitter.com/voterdotwtf/status/1670190334712639488?s=20), with images)
[The code](https://github.com/wilsoncusack/nouns-vote-with-reason) is open source and under MIT license. The site currently has no cost overhead: it runs on Vercel free tier and only relies on the Nouns DAO subgraph.
## Motivation
Aside from making the speedy, vote-with-reason-centric client that I myself wanted to use, the meta goal of the project is to help Nouns by
1. Attempting to encourage vote with reason, so that we can better understand each other's perspectives--developing a sort of "case law" for what Nouns *is*--and push Nouns to be the #1 place for thoughtful DAO participants.
2. Present Nouns DAO as a sort of game that can be played. I call the site a "Nouns DAO console." We don't have exciting prop outcomes to share every week, but we do have proposal drama every week, and that's something!
## Traction
I am most proud of the feedback I shared above and the mint comments below. I hope we'll see more positive feedback come in the votes. Admittedly, I have been cheap and don't have great site analytics. Here is trailing 30 days from Vercel, however it flatlines when my free-tier usage maxes out 😅.
Here are analytics from another service, which I added on the 15th.
Vote support went live on the 12th and you can also track some usage via the *sent from voter.wtf* you see in the vote reasons.
## Ask
I am asking for 10 ETH retro funding to compensate, recognize, and appreciate the work so far. If funded, I am hopeful that this can serve as a model to some subset of developers who want to work with the DAO: hack on something on your own time and try to get some traction. If it proves useful to the DAO, come and ask for retro funding.
Thanks for reading :) VwR!
P.S.
If you feel compelled, there is also an [OE](https://zora.co/collect/eth:0xdaec0919ca4670e5823753588f3721ad6eaaf3f1) you can mint to support. Comments on the mints so far :)
Vote with Reason $VWRCommemorates and supports the last two months of work on voter.wtf: creating a minimally fully-featured, performant, vote-centric Nouns DAO client. 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reVoteWithReason from nounburger.eth
> Voting yes for Proposal 307 as I believe it offers a fantastic opportunity to globally celebrate, proliferate, and highlight the Nounish culture that has been built over the last 2 years. Opening it up to a prop house round will enable communities to create their own unique activations, showcasing the talent and passion within our Dao. 🥳
*sent from voter.wtf*