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secret-ballot-voting-&-sealed-bid-auctions-for-nouns-dao@0x7f64...d6d2 A group of DAO's desiring an important piece of infrastructure together is always a good idea. It's a lot harder to organize. But it would be good. > > > Its a deep R&D problem, although at nouns current scale the ROI doesn't exist. There is no scale. > > Please consider a proposal where multiple (much larger) DAOs co-sponsor this as they all suffer from same problems and i know Nouns would be happy to chime in proportionately. >
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secret-ballot-voting-&-sealed-bid-auctions-for-nouns-dao Thanks for proposing this Auryn. It would be really cool (and long-term important) for DAOs to start trying out true private voting (like we have in our national elections). I am assuming NounsDAO is still interested in true Private Voting. If so, this could be Nouns leading the way in critical infrastructure.
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The People of Ethereum0xe39f3245a9b6acb469270e05a54051339d0ea39bbf5c01d0e7cdab2f33b6a374bafkreiexbjx5m3qwqxx7hw5vfx7de3boesbqitvxndxijqcgobrcr4adlybafkreia4ccgiy72dmy6euyxuwsbfgt26vn6uluvn2wb3k5sbvgxv3ir2sm
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How could you not bet on this team? +1 > I’m deeply bullish on our team—not just because our devs are sharp, but also from working closely with Willy at ShapeShift. That experience taught me the power of gritty execution and rapid iteration. He is truly one of the best builders I know. > > Since FarCon NYC, where Nounspace won the hackathon, our product has only gotten stronger. Most recently, we placed 2nd in the showcase track of the Base Batches global buildathon, earning a trip for the whole team to Network School—where builders and investors alike validated what we're building. > > We haven’t just shipped; we’ve learned, iterated, and proven our value across several stages of development. The vision of unifying the Nouns ecosystem while enabling others to launch bespoke spaces is strategic and powerful. > > Sure, UX and deliverables can be sharpened as we go—but that’s what good builders do: we build in public. I believe in this team, our momentum, and the Nounish mission. Let’s double down. ⌐◨-◨ +1 > Still genuinely thrilled that I get to work everyday on giving communities like Nouns a better shared space where we can connect and coordinate. > > Lots of love for this community helping us get off the ground just over a year ago - we've been hard at work mapping out this new direction to reflect all of the feedback y'all have sent our way. +1 > This proposal is a solid step toward making noun.space a go-to hub for the Nouns community while also opening doors for other communities. The team has shown they can deliver, and the vision of a customizable, community-owned platform is right on point. Let's keep building this together ⌐◨-◨ +1 > @0xae47...5Fed > > gm memevalue, first I want to thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts 🙏 > > Happy to respond to each of your concerns. > > 1. Noun.space > We started by building everything we promised in the initial proposal the community voted for. > Then, we continuously iterated based on feedback - the majority of which has been overwhelmingly positive. We definitely understand that what we’ve built is not for anyone - few products can be - but I've lost count of the number of people that have told us they "love" nounspace. The usage metrics and ongoing growth (as shown in the public analytics attached to the prop) are very positive and encouraging. Nounspace attracts more daily visitors than any other Nouns client, and we now have a clear path to make this platform fully nouns-focused, while also leveraging what we've built to help other communities. This is the only way to continue improving nounspace forever (with no ongoing cost to Nouns DAO). The demand we’ve seen for this platform from other communities with little-to-no marketing on our part confirms that we're solving real problems for them that nobody else solves. > > Clanker.space > The mention of Clanker in our proposal serves to demonstrate this demand. Clanker is by far the leading token launchpad on Base and Farcaster, and a protocol that links the leading web3 social platform with the fastest growing L2 is the ideal partner for our project Many tokens launching through Clanker do not have a website, chat, or utility, all of which are very real problems that both clanker.space and blank.space solve. > > Further, the token launchpad business model is one of the strongest, most validated business models in web3. By offering communities the option to launch a token through blank.space's clanker-powered launchpad, we stand to generate significant revenues that will be used to further the development of Space Systems, which will directly benefit nounspace at no ongoing cost to Nouns (Clanker shares 50% of their revenues with partner launchpads at no additional cost to the end-user). > > Proposal spaces > Proposal spaces offer parity with top governance clients alongside live chat, S-tier AI summaries, and most importantly, the ability for the proposer to customize the space with whatever content/functionality is relevant. Further, we are the only client so far that supports voting via mini-app, and have the ability to automatically add relevant mini-apps to proposals (ie. propdates, milestone-tracking, futarchy mini apps, etc.), which we would argue is a more effective way to implement new prop-related functionality than requiring each client to build custom implementations. Even if you would prefer to use a different Farcaster client, you will benefit from this functionality being integrated into cross-client mini-apps that provide additional Nounish touchpoints. > > Deliverables > Check the Roadmap section for nouns-focused Nounspace. We'll release more details on blank.space in the coming weeks, but felt it was better to keep this proposal focused on Nounspace. That said, any functionality developed for Space Systems will inherently be available on Nounspace. > > $SPACE > $SPACE will be what it has always been - the governance token for Nounspace. We have been exploring strategies around a new token for the space system launchpad (blank.space). If we decide to go down this route, $BLANK will be airdropped to $SPACE holders (After this proposal, Nouns DAO will be the top space holder - and $SPACE been repeatedly distributed to nOGs holders, which have always been free for Nouners to mint) .While the price action for $SPACE, like most tokens, has been rough, this is largely in part to the significant rewards we've distributed. We've learned a lot from $SPACE and look forward to implementing these learnings with $BLANK, whose performance would directly benefit $SPACE holders via the airdrop and a $BLANK/$SPACE liquidity pool. > > Thank you for acknowledging our team's extensive efforts (and we’ve asked Tom to tone it down a little bit on X!). If you have any other feedback beyond decreasing the ask 75%, we're always interested in hearing it. > > > > > > > Overall this proposal was a hard read, section headers look like random graphics and get lost amongst everything, and we jump in-and-out of nounspace to clankspace and back to nounspace - but here is my feedback on the proposal and nounspace website/app: > > > > Noun.space > > I'm still unsure why people are going to use this and I think this is reflected by slow traction thus far. Can't really see much notable evolution form the initial proposals/mvp if I'm being honest, it is a still a primitive page builder with a Farcaster app on the side. Every single fidget I've used has a worse UX than just going on that website. Why would people want to use websites like this unless the UX/UI is far superior? It doesn't make sense. As a farcaster client, it seems like a clunky mix of wordpress and farcaster.xyz but with less features and pretty hard to explore anything, no novel search algos or UI. You write "platform that provides immediate value" but I am struggling to see what the immediate value is without it explicitly being laid out by you guys. > > > > Clank.space > > The clanker partnership is interesting, but they also are pretty niche and I guess have DAUs in the 100s as opposed to thousands or tens of thousands, so this probably won't take the .space platform anywhere in that regard. Clanker fees have trended down significantly since the launch hype: https://defillama.com/protocol/clanker - I like clanker but personally not hugely bullish on token launchpads. Seems a somewhat random inclusion in a proposal called "Double down on Nounspace". > > > > Proposal spaces > > Similarly to websites being squashed into fidgets leading to bad UX, the proposal space makes it harder to read the proposal than just using a client. Not clear to me why it is showing the same proposal twice, and the AI feed seems redundant for the most part unless the agent is s-tier. > > > > Unclear what exactly the deliverables are (your prop doesn't even mention the word deliverables), it says you will be doing noun.space features full-time but also mention you plan to build clank.space and other community spaces so not sure how that is possible if you are working full-time on nounspace. > > > > Unclear what $space token is being given to Nouns, is this the og one or the new blank space one? The monthly chart on the og nounspace token $space is extremely bearish and doesn't inspire confidence for the new token: https://www.dextools.io/app/en/base/pair-explorer/0x742e2868f9fd2bdf464494100c1829ba75836c9f?t=1751851052823 > > > > I appreciate the hustle and like the team, although had to block Nounspace Tom on X due to spam (that has not impacted my vote though). I think I would be more For this proposal at ~25% this current ask with some laser focused/concrete deliverables and KPIs. > > > > gl > >
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-fundingLil'nouns buying Nouns is for sure money flowing into Nouns. 900+ ETH is solid. How would we categorize this? Does Lil'Nouns have any positive expected return ideas in the life of Lil'Nouns? Or is it largely people purchasing Lil'Nouns? +1 > @0xE048...8846 > > lil nouns 2 eth grant(?) returned 900+ eth in nouns purchases.. just sayin. by far the best roi nouns has ever seen. > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an investment with a return expected? If so, what was it and how did it go?
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-fundingThanks memevalue. Cool lil'prop. -> "There will be a 50% profit share put back into the Lil Nouns treasury until the USD equivalent of 17e has been returned, after which, the profit share will be 5% ongoing for the lifetime of the business (my time horizon is decades/generations). To be clear: all profit share paid to the DAO directly, not by minting Lil Nouns. I will convert the full ETH amount to USD and base the repayment amount on this USD value swapped onchain." Did you have some type of time estimate for how long it might take for Lil Nouns to get back the 17 ETH to breakeven before generating an ongoing positive return? Thanks. +1 > @0xE048...8846 > > subdao, but my aim is positive expected return: https://lilnouns.camp/proposals/296 > > > Thanks stripymofo.   > > > > oooouuuuu, so Nouns DAO giving $400k to fund a really cool 1 minute movie, with an aim to get back some ETH via a share of the NFT sales. > > > > Can't find exact numbers, but looks like 20,165 sales at 0.004844 ETH each during its minting period from March 11-31, so 97.679 ETH total with 80% towards PG and 20% towards Nouns, so presumably 19.535 ETH back to Nouns.  (Excuse me if my numbers are wrong.)   > > > > So another example of give out ~260 ETH and get back 19.535 ETH.  Again, not a POSITIVE return and never an expectation of a positive return.   > > > > Any positive expected return ideas in the life of Nouns DAO anyone can think of? > > > > +1 > > > > > @0xE048...8846 > > > > > > https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/407 > > > > > > > Thanks for this one Ben. > > > > > > > > Prop 511 seems quite unique. Looks like Nouns DAO didn't have to give out any real grant money. A group created an awesome piece of art, and chose to gift a portion of the proceeds to Nouns DAO. > > > > > > > > Charitable or by-choice gifts to Nouns DAO are definitely great ways for Nouns to build additional capital. High level, I think many teams, projects, companies, DAOs (who find some success) should more actively give back to the orgs that helped them get off the ground. Historically, this doesn't seem to happen much. If we can build this into our culture more, I think it would set some really good examples. > > > > > > > > We could find some other examples like this. In fact, Public Nouns (who obviously used many of the amazing things that Nouns DAO created) decided to give back to Nouns DAO like other cousins (without any ask, before it even started). Public Nouns DAO has given Nouns DAO 16 Public Nouns so far which, at the minimum bid of 0.33 ETH, is 5.28 ETH worth of PNs. > > > > > > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an "investment grant" with any possibility of a positive expected return? > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > @0xE048...8846 > > > > > > > > > > https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/511 > > > > > > > > > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an investment with a return expected? If so, what was it and how did it go?
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-fundingThanks stripymofo.   oooouuuuu, so Nouns DAO giving $400k to fund a really cool 1 minute movie, with an aim to get back some ETH via a share of the NFT sales. Can't find exact numbers, but looks like 20,165 sales at 0.004844 ETH each during its minting period from March 11-31, so 97.679 ETH total with 80% towards PG and 20% towards Nouns, so presumably 19.535 ETH back to Nouns.  (Excuse me if my numbers are wrong.)   So another example of give out ~260 ETH and get back 19.535 ETH.  Again, not a POSITIVE return and never an expectation of a positive return.   Any positive expected return ideas in the life of Nouns DAO anyone can think of? +1 > @0xE048...8846 > > https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/407 > > > Thanks for this one Ben. > > > > Prop 511 seems quite unique. Looks like Nouns DAO didn't have to give out any real grant money. A group created an awesome piece of art, and chose to gift a portion of the proceeds to Nouns DAO. > > > > Charitable or by-choice gifts to Nouns DAO are definitely great ways for Nouns to build additional capital. High level, I think many teams, projects, companies, DAOs (who find some success) should more actively give back to the orgs that helped them get off the ground. Historically, this doesn't seem to happen much. If we can build this into our culture more, I think it would set some really good examples. > > > > We could find some other examples like this. In fact, Public Nouns (who obviously used many of the amazing things that Nouns DAO created) decided to give back to Nouns DAO like other cousins (without any ask, before it even started). Public Nouns DAO has given Nouns DAO 16 Public Nouns so far which, at the minimum bid of 0.33 ETH, is 5.28 ETH worth of PNs. > > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an "investment grant" with any possibility of a positive expected return? > > > > +1 > > > > > @0xE048...8846 > > > > > > https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/511 > > > > > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an investment with a return expected? If so, what was it and how did it go?
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-fundingThanks for this one Ben. Prop 511 seems quite unique. Looks like Nouns DAO didn't have to give out any real grant money. A group created an awesome piece of art, and chose to gift a portion of the proceeds to Nouns DAO. Charitable or by-choice gifts to Nouns DAO are definitely great ways for Nouns to build additional capital. High level, I think many teams, projects, companies, DAOs (who find some success) should more actively give back to the orgs that helped them get off the ground. Historically, this doesn't seem to happen much. If we can build this into our culture more, I think it would set some really good examples. We could find some other examples like this. In fact, Public Nouns (who obviously used many of the amazing things that Nouns DAO created) decided to give back to Nouns DAO like other cousins (without any ask, before it even started). Public Nouns DAO has given Nouns DAO 16 Public Nouns so far which, at the minimum bid of 0.33 ETH, is 5.28 ETH worth of PNs. Has Nouns DAO ever done an "investment grant" with any possibility of a positive expected return? +1 > @0xE048...8846 > > https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/511 > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an investment with a return expected? If so, what was it and how did it go?
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-fundingok, so looking at prop 772 -> Nouns DAO giving 22k to fund a cool event, with an "aim to return at least 7.5k USDC to the DAO through" merch and NFT sales. I guess you say it didn't work out as planned but, even if that was accomplished, that's not a "return". When people refer to "return", they generally mean a positive return, not a negative return. Giving 100 and getting back 20 shouldn't really be thought of as a "return" on investment. Any others in the life of Nouns DAO? +1 > @0xE048...8846 > > Most recently prop 772. It did not go as planned. > > > Has Nouns DAO ever done an investment with a return expected? If so, what was it and how did it go?
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how-can/should-grant-recipients-return-value-to-the-treasury?Great questions willywonka.eth. Having similar thoughts. Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts about these important topics.
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Spreading awareness and vibes! +1 > We voted against the first 2025 proposal due to its budget size, but with Snax’s cuts, we believe this is a fair partnership to continue. > > These events put ⌐◨-◨ at the forefront, delivering an 'excellent' time for over 25,000 people in 400+ cities, that’s HUGE! > > It’s the fun, playful culture Nouns should lean into, perfectly aligning with our vision and easy for normies to dip their toes in and wrap their heads around. > > PizzaDAO has built the infrastructure to make something of this magnitude happen, this partnership lets us leverage it, with Nouns covering less than 20% of the costs. > > We encourage dao members to take these parties as opportunity to share the possibilities within Nouns and what has been achieved here. > > With all the ingredients being provided, we just need to sprinkle the cheese and cook! 🍕 +1 > Let there be pizza +1 > As we search for self sustainability and treasury preservation, we must be cautious not to kill the culture in doing so. This proposal is oozing in it!! > > Snax is a dedicated builder, extremely Nounish and here to preserve a lore we can all resonate with. > > 🍕+ ⌐◨-◨ = 🥳 > We are here for it! +1 > Grassroots movements are nounish! I was already in favor of the previous version, so I'm keeping my vote.
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spread awareness vibes for a good cause! +1 > As we search for self sustainability and treasury preservation, we must be cautious not to kill the culture in doing so. This proposal is oozing in it!! > > Snax is a dedicated builder, extremely Nounish and here to preserve a lore we can all resonate with. > > 🍕+ ⌐◨-◨ = 🥳 > We are here for it! +1 > Grassroots movements are nounish! I was already in favor of the previous version, so I'm keeping my vote. +1 > if we dont support this global community of most excellent builders I am not sure who we should support. These are some of the kindest , most well organized and nounish people on the planet and we shoudl cherish and grow this relationship every day forever +1 > Let there be pizza +1 > ⌐◨-◨
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# Payout of PN #70 for Awareness Give-away during GFEL in Portland (very late) In September of 2024, Public Nouns launched a competition to build excitement for Public Goods and PNs around General Forum on Ethereum Localism ("GFEL") by @EthForestDAO in Portland. Five Public Nouns were purchased that week! Giving one PN buyer a chance to also win OG Public Noun #70. The winner of Public Noun #70 was wallet: alexpoon.eth (0x9934465Ee73BeAF148b1b3Ff232C8cD86c4c2c63) Congrats! Sorry for the lateness. This is the step for Public Nouns DAO to move PN #70 via DAO proposal. Reference: https://x.com/PublicNouns/status/1836864480979960131
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@0xc6a3...96E4 Thanks. Appreciate the clarification. I am observing that different people having very specific criteria that can differ from others very specific criteria can often lead to a jam. From my experience, in DAOs, its ideal when there is a very clear shared mission that many/most people really care about. When that is the case, things seem to flow and become easier. Also, happy to chat more "offchain". (even though nouns camp is a really fun (yet expensive) place to do it!) > @0xE048...8846 > > Not codified anywhere that I'm aware of, and while I know some people share the ethos, can't say that I'm speaking for anyone but myself in my VWRs > > appreciate the interest though and happy to discuss more offchain > > > @0xc6a3...96E4 > > > > Hi there! > > > > This part you wrote about the three things that you think Nouns should fund is quite helpful to see: > > > > "regardless of Nouns treasury size, i think it is important that the proposals we fund hit one or more of these: > > a) public goods either in the hyper technical definition of non-excludable & non-rivalrous or in the spirit of those words (charitable impact, doing good for the public at large, {strong disagree with nbaronia about physical spaces}) > > b) provide direct benefit to Nouns voters by solving pain points in the existing processes > > c) introduce Nouns to new bidders and builders who can accelerate the memetic flywheel" > > > > Is this defined or expanded on somewhere? And is this Nouns DAO view or your personal view? > > > > Appreciate the help. > > > > > Agora stands out for me as one of Nouns tech success stories. > > > > > > a small team funded 20eth (with eth priced at ~$1,500) to solve a very specific problem for Nouns - delegation. They identified a pain point in Nouns’ tooling and solved it, making it easier to disseminate information and coordinate with aligned individuals in the ecosystem, and saw significant traction among Nouners. (RIP Prop.House) > > > they came back, ultimately passing a prop for $221k. a hefty price tag, yet there were was a clear roadmap and deliverables providing direct value to Nouns DAO. the product was so good that Optimism, ENS, & Uniswap adopted the product and the company received venture backing > > > > > > (why Nouns then gave a non-dilutive $500k grant to & created client incentives for a Y-Combinator portfolio company that was on the verge of closing it’s doors to build a governance client when there is seemingly no roadmap to venture scalability or break even revenue generation is beyond me, but “alignment”) > > > > > > i think what’s missing for nounspace is that it doesn’t solve any problems for Nouns. the mandate for the round was, “to build a dedicated Nouns client to help surface information across the Nouns ecosystem.” a myspace style profile doesn’t serve that purpose; it doesn’t make discussion and coordination any easier, it doesn’t help proposers connect with voters. i have used the product several times. my profile isn’t customized because i didn’t feel the need or desire to save the changes made > > > > > > regardless of Nouns treasury size, i think it is important that the proposals we fund hit one or more of these: > > > a) public goods either in the hyper technical definition of non-excludable & non-rivalrous or in the spirit of those words (charitable impact, doing good for the public at large, {strong disagree with nbaronia about physical spaces}) > > > b) provide direct benefit to Nouns voters by solving pain points in the existing processes > > > c) introduce Nouns to new bidders and builders who can accelerate the memetic flywheel > > > > > > unfortunately, putting noggles on a website in the name of “proliferation” isn’t hitting any of those marks. it’s a cool idea, and i do wish the team success. > > > > > > > > > > > >
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