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why-i’m-against-the-break-even-movement-and-how-i-see-us-moving-forward@0x39a7...aBc0 JP is saying that completely centralizing the DAO kills the decentralized spirit and diverse voices that make it so special. The treasury spend is entirely independent of that. You can push towards sustainability without: - Instituting a singular vision all props must follow - Controlling the majority of votes and voting all together - Voting down popular props at the last minute - Establishing a centralized leadership team - Focus solely on turning Nouns into a governance hub - Passing unpopular props unilaterally (795) I believe in a world where we can maintain decentralization and work towards sustainability without giving total control to a small committee, no matter how well intentioned. I don't think the governance innovation you're hoping for is going to come out of a centralized treasury. Nouns is not a DAO under the absolute rule of 2-3 people, it's just an awkwardly structured VC fund. > Thank you for sharing this, jp. I’ve read your words carefully and truly appreciate your long-standing commitment to Nouns and to keeping the culture alive. > > But I’d like to offer one reflection in return: if, as you say, "even draining the treasury wouldn’t kill Nouns"—because the culture and legacy are strong enough to endure—then by that same logic, the Break Even Movement should not be seen as a threat to the culture either. > > We are not trying to stop creativity or put up barriers. We’re simply advocating that we stop burning through funds without accountability. Culture doesn't need endless money to survive—but it does need a healthy system that prevents rot. > > If you can imagine continuing to build with $0 in the treasury, then surely you can also imagine building in a more deliberate, financially sustainable way. That’s all we're asking.
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what-is-your-vision-for-nouns-dao?@0x39a7...aBc0 I appreciate you taking the time to think deeply about the future of Nouns and lay out your vision. I agree that we should use Nouns as a vehicle to figure out how to make DAOs work, so we can accelerate global coordination and improve how people organize to make change in the world. Practically, I believe you are going about it backwards. You are trying to run Nouns like a company. Leadership teams, seasonal budgets, unilaterally controlling the vote, not engaging the community on socials or calls. None of this behavior is conducive to the vision you outlined. After you complete your take over and implement a process filled hierarchy, I highly doubt whatever is left of Nouns will be able to execute on your vision. Centralizing power to fix governance will kill the experimental culture that makes governance innovation possible. The people that live and breathe Nouns are your best shot at figuring out how to make DAOs the winning coordination primitive on the planet. They will not stick around if you implement process and hierarchy in a DAO they no longer have a voice in. You are trying to make DAOs work. Why turn Nouns into the opposite of one? I truly believe DAOs will catch fire when capital and culture come together in a beautiful dance. Right now, your insistence on control, process, and hierarchy risks killing what makes Nouns special- the culture, grassroots community, and weirdness of it all. You could very well implement governance summits, research pieces, and more (which I find exciting) within the current structure of the DAO. You do not need to control everything to make that happen. These paths are not mutually exclusive. If we’re going to invoke the Federalist Papers, let’s be historically honest: Hamilton, Madison, and Jay didn’t grab all the votes and declare ownership—they published in the open, debated Anti-Federalists line-by-line, and enshrined checks precisely so no single faction (including their own) could dominate. The community does not want you to shoulder all the responsibility. We want to help. All we ask is that you respect the values we built up over the last four years, and work with us, instead of trying to control us. Don't kill everyone's voice in favor of your own. The success of Nouns ultimately rests on decentralized participation, open-ended experimentation, and genuine diversity of thought. Nouns is more than the money and governance. Lean into the culture, plurality, and madness of it all. Nouns isn't some treasury to control. It's a society that requires the right balance of freedom and structure to succeed. Let us find that balance together ⌐◨-◨ > # My Vision of NounsDAO > > Over the past several months, I've deeply evaluated and reflected on the development trajectory, organizational culture, and governance challenges faced by NounsDAO. I fundamentally believe in the immense potential of the DAO framework to transform current social coordination and governance. The issues previously experienced by Nouns do not indicate a failure of the DAO concept itself, but rather reflect a failure in leadership and the absence of a clearly defined vision. > > From my perspective, we have not yet identified an effective management and organizational model suitable for this new type of decentralized structure, nor have we articulated a clear, executable shared vision. However, I believe these issues are not insurmountable but represent critical governance challenges we must address. > > During extensive observation of NounsDAO, I've witnessed invaluable yet harsh lessons, particularly during the fork incident, when I felt the DAO was on a path of self-destruction and zero-sum conflict. Some community members treat Nouns as a corpse to be rapidly divided from its treasury. This led me to proactively acquire more Nouns tokens from the market and deeply engage in community governance discussions. The Break Even Movement was an initial step in this broader effort, aimed at preventing individuals who seek short-term financial gain from accessing DAO funds. > > Beyond solving the immediate governance challenges, my deeper ambition is to make Nouns a true experimental platform for DAO theory and practice. We aim to explore and refine fundamental questions: How should a DAO be structured? What governance and organizational models are truly sustainable? How can communication and decision-making processes be designed to balance efficiency with inclusivity? Just as the Federalist Papers laid the groundwork for a new system of governance in the United States, we aspire to produce a new body of work—essays, frameworks, and methodologies—that will help shape the future of DAO governance across Web3. Our goal is for NounsDAO to not only govern well but also to contribute enduringly to the broader DAO ecosystem by offering a clear blueprint for others. > > My objective is to gradually form a new leadership team, clearly define and rigorously execute a strategic vision for NounsDAO. **All future proposals will be assessed based on their alignment with this vision.** > > My strategic vision involves positioning Nouns as a governance hub within the Web3 ecosystem, providing comprehensive governance frameworks, legal compliance solutions, strategic advisory services, and partnership-building support. As a trusted partner, Nouns will actively assist other DAOs in overcoming their governance challenges. > > To achieve this vision, we will set clear, measurable milestones: > > - Within one year, establish deep partnerships with at least 1-2 external DAOs with larger treasuries than Nouns, securing delegation voting rights and actively participating in their governance as a key KPI. > - Create a DAO Ambassador Program dedicated to ensuring effective cooperation with external DAOs. > - Actively drive the Break Even Movement, ensuring that DAO funds are utilized to support sustainable long-term growth rather than short-term division. > - Invite cryptocurrency lawyers, academic researchers, venture capitalists, and project founders worldwide to build governance infrastructure together, including regular Governance Summits and a dedicated governance research platform. > > Ultimately, I envision Nouns becoming a dynamic hub attracting governance experts and builders from diverse DAOs, collaboratively refining DAO governance practices and establishing NounsDAO as the ideal experimental ground for developing and perfecting effective DAO management. > > Note： > > For a long time, I carefully considered whether now is the right moment to publish this vision. As the largest voting block in the DAO, any direction we set will inevitably impact members whose views don’t align with this vision. I fully recognize that a clear and strong vision may bring differing opinions and even challenges within the community. However, I am equally convinced that NounsDAO urgently needs this clarity and direction. > > I deeply respect the diversity of opinions and needs within the community, but I firmly believe that a clear and resolute vision is essential for Nouns to overcome past governance struggles and achieve sustainable, long-term growth. Such decisions always come with trade-offs and risks, but if we lack the courage to take this step, Nouns will remain trapped in uncertainty. I am prepared to shoulder all the consequences and responsibilities of this action and will work hard to resolve any emerging differences through open communication, transparent decision-making, and active community engagement.
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@0x094B...C8B8 You are making quite a few assumptions. But you don't know me. We have never spoken, even though I have tried. A million dollars, 2 million dollars. I won't pretend to know whether that's a drop in the bucket for you. But I must ask - how much time have you spent building in Nouns? I've committed 3 years of my life to it. Don't assume my financial situation or whether I'm able to cover multi-thousand dollar AI costs per month. Because I'm not. We did not give up on our vision. We have no runway. You left us a single paragraph of feedback and voted to stop paying us. We then re-prioritized based on the limited signal *you* gave us. You said "I don’t believe Nouns is ready to play the role of a philanthropic foundation. At this stage, I believe we need to think like a startup—prioritizing sustainability, discipline, and alignment over scale." You didn't want to fund philanthropy and instead wanted Nouns to think like a startup. With our funding source gone, we shifted short term focus to figure out how to incubate revenue generating projects, using the same protocol, in the hopes of making all Flows sustainable. All working towards our vision. We've been working full-time on Flows since August. Our salaries were completely cut off in April. It's quite difficult to continue working and put food on the table with no salary. Still, we persisted. Working for free, with hardly any personal runway. We secured a deal with Vrbs, are working with Base, and have 2 more communities wanting to run their own flows under our vision. Is that enough conviction for you? I haven't talked to you over a call, so it is difficult to share all the context and care that goes into a proposal like this. I appreciate that you care for Nouns. So do I. If you are trying to turn Nouns into a governance role-model for the space, why are you voting down one of the only innovative capital allocation platforms we have at the last minute? There's a world where we can set aside these disagreements, because we're really on the same team at the end of the day. I want Nouns to succeed just as much as you. Happy to chat whenever you want. Let's figure it out together ⌐◨-◨ > > > You previously said that it would be easy to raise funds using Flow in its current form — so why haven’t you done it? > > After your prop was defeated, you immediately chose to pivot. When a founder abandons a previously held conviction right after receiving feedback from an investor, and changes the entire product direction as a result, that’s one of the biggest red flags in my view. In practice, if a founder shifts their vision just because of a single comment from me, that’s a deal I would never invest in. It shows they’re not building something they truly believe in—they’re simply trying to follow the money. There’s a fundamental difference between a founder with deep conviction and one who’s just chasing capital. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen that conviction in you. > > I’m willing to spend over a million dollars in Nouns to pursue what I believe ins, and I wouldn’t hesitate to spend another million. Are you? You weren’t even willing to cover Flow’s AI cost of 13 ETH yourself. >
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@0x6fB5...83b0 We included a clear plan in our last 2 props. We simplified this one per *your* feedback. You can doubt revnets, that's fine. But we are optimistic, and willing to give it a try and see if they work. Nouns is about optimistic experimentation, don't you think? Re: clear builder goals: Part of what we're working on is having each funding level include a mission, and anything getting funding below that level must have a mission that is directly tied to the parent mission. So everyone has a clear direction. > > > There’s still not a clear plan for how this new version of Flows will work or what’s actually different this time. > > I don’t think Revnets are the unlock we’re hoping for, and getting real collaboration across that many teams feels like a big lift. I’d rather see a clear goal that everyone can work toward. Without direction, people usually just do their own thing and the value doesn’t make its way back to the whole. >
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@0x073f...2e63 Our first proposal (582) was structured the same way. We were paid to build out a protocol and frontend, we ran a successful pilot, and the DAO put in more funding. We want to work for 5 months on a very hard engineering problem and restructure Flows. We plan to run a pilot to show that it works. Our salaries are already well below market rate for experienced software engineers. But we care about Nouns and want to make this work. I tried to get more funding for existing Flows. The proposals were voted down because the breakeven camp doesn't want to fund charity or spend a lot of money. We are following their lead, reducing our budget, and building out a system to make Nouns sustainable and competitive, forging a path for other DAOs. I'm hesitant to ask for more funding without a successful pilot. If the incubator shows promise we can certainly put more money into it, but we have to build it first Bix! > It shouldn't cost the DAO $90k to distribute $15k, the maths are not mathing. ⌐◨-◨
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@0xeA03...CDAE I'm all for plurality and many grant-giving models. Flows funded 220+ unique projects, that's why we built it, and that's what makes Nouns so special. Just to clarify my poor wording: I'm not saying that Flows is the only path forward. What I mean is I don't see other ambitious capital allocation platform bets on the table, and we should be making more of those bets. We spent $65m via DAO props. Auction prices have continued to fall. We need to experiment with new grant giving models, and need more teams trying to make something new work. Our current model does not sustain itself. We need a change. > > > appreciate the effort and passion behind this proposal, but I don’t agree with the framing that Flows is the only project capable of reversing the DAO’s trajectory. That view feels unnecessarily narrow and dismissive of the diversity and creativity that has defined Nouns from the start. > > Sustainability is important—but so is experimentation, plurality, and letting many models coexist. The idea that we must fully pivot to commerce-driven “onchain Y Combinator” mechanics as the path forward doesn’t resonate with me. > > Nouns has always been about more than just ROI. I support thoughtful evolution, but not under the assumption that everything else has failed or that this is our only hope. >
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# Flows.wtf - the Nouns incubator (final) In Prop 776, we wanted to build out a sustainable version of Flows *while also supporting existing grantees*. The DAO's breakeven movement made it clear they don't want to fund outright philanthropy. So -- we want to pivot. A full reset. New Flows, new requirements, new tools for builders. Fully focused making each Flows project self-sustainable. We plan to restructure Flows so that builders can work together to earn money via commerce and donations. We are still working out the exact details, and need runway to experiment. **Our goal:** make all Flows funded projects self-sustainable, and give upside to Nouns. > *An onchain Y Combinator for grassroots projects.* # Flows currently Imagine Flows is a company. We have 17 departments. Each department has 10-20 people. Every person is working on their own thing. No one is working together. If Nouns' superpower is parallel processing, we must get people working together towards shared growth and sustainability. **A small (non-exhaustive) example of what we want to build:** we get artists to work with product people to help the public goods builders sell T-Shirts to help sustain their work. Everyone gets a split. People work together, not alone. # The good news Nouns provides the ideal environment for onchain entrepreneurship to flourish - Passionate community willing to try what you create - Beautiful brand to build on - Initial funding to get started - Smart people willing to help you build - Public goods alignment better than a B-Corp > We believe Nouns can be an incredible incubator for onchain projects. We want to incubate projects, help them earn revenue for the entire Flows system, cut Nouns some upside, and ultimately make all of these small-scale Nounish projects sustainable. # Funding request $16k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($8k a month per person) for 5 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. $15k USDC to stream out to projects that are building towards sustainability. Total ask: $105k USDC # Revnet Model One idea we want to explore: helping projects launch revenue-backed tokens (revnets) and split issuance with the broader community. We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months to workshop what a revnet enabled Flow would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models. ![](https://i.imgur.com/ZEmLVSJ.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. ***We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper.*** # Our final ask We view Flows as the only project on the table with a chance to change the DAOs downward trajectory. Hoping to sustain auction revenue by funding one off projects did not work with $50m in the treasury, and likely won't work for $6m unless we make a big change. We believe Flows can be that change. We desperately want Nouns to succeed, it is too special. We love Nouns. We have been building for you all for nearly 3 years now. We care about this community deeply. We will not propose again after this. help us bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle - rocketman ⌐◨-◨
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moving-flows-forward:-a-sustainable-approach-to-public-goods-funding@0x6a02...80F4 "incapable of producing revenue generating projects" cup of vrb (vrbs branded coffee cups - about $1k in sales afaik) https://vrbscoffee.com/ https://vrbs.wtf/vrbs/users (ton of builders earned via splits with the DAO) fully agreed with latter half of your comment though, all i'm thinking about rn. > We keep trying to patch the structure while neglecting the internal culture. None of the DAOs mentioned in this proposal has a culture capable of producing revenue-generating projects. > > Why do we have to delegate away the responsibility of generating revenue? This is something of a principal-agent problem: > - Nouns funds external teams/DAOs to eventually bring in some flows > - Most of them fail and just abandon the project. The team leaves Nouns bc there's no more funding. There's nobody left in the DAO with know-how of the project internals to pivot/repurpose it. > - Some of them find sustainability, but now there's no incentive for them to stick with Nouns bc they don't need the funding. They go away and do their own thing. > > You're proposing we further delegate this responsibility to introduce another tier of principal-agent conflict. I'm highly skeptical that Revnets can fix those misaligned incentives. > > If we want to become sustainable, we've got to do things in-house. > - we've got to fund the people who are here for the long term, not passers-by > - we've got to develop our internal organization culture to support revenue-generating projects. > > We should invest more in wetware instead of hoping software saves us. > - build trust between contributors > - scale internal delegation of powers to afford efficiency > - leverage the far-reaching network of Nouns to find opportunities > - seize the opportunities internally > > Organizational culture has compounding returns. If we keep neglecting it and only investing outwards, the DAO will fade away. > > There's no point in deciding how Nouns will fund public goods if there's no plan for Nouns continuing to exist. > Let Optimism, Gitcoin, EF do that for now...they have the funds and a sustainable flywheel. > > We can talk more about funding public goods when we figure out how to fund ourselves.
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flows---development-ask-(final)@0x073f...2e63 We built a completely new protocol and frontend from scratch. Happy to walk you through all the changes that were necessary to bring a production version to Nouns. You can check out the repos here: https://github.com/cobuildwithus/flows-protocol https://github.com/cobuildwithus/flows.wtf Updated the site with a footer to make these more visible. > > > What is the difference between the Flows on https://vrbs.wtf/ which was deployed almost a year ago and the Flows at https://flows.wtf/ besides UI/UX? Feels like we got a reskin that token gates using TCR. > > Also the proposal says that it's open source, can you please provide where the code is, because when I clicked the link in proposal 697 its giving me a 404: https://github.com/wkocjan/nouns-flows > > Then I search GitHub for nouns-flows and I see this https://github.com/obvious-inc/nouns-flows/ which has code, but the GitHub has not been updated in 6 months. > > +1 > > > @0x073f...2e63 > > > > We are proposing a complete revamp of the Flows protocol and platform which will take months. How do you propose we build that without being paid? We already cut our salaries 20%, and they're already well below market rate. I'd love to request more funds to pay builders, but the DAO has voted against us twice now to do that (as did you). > > > > Our last 2 props to fund existing Flows builders did not pass. I'm upset about that, but the reality is the breakeven movement does not want to fund existing Flows. > > > > It's clear we must chart a new path and show that Flows can generate revenue before we fund more public goods. > > > > > > > > > > > This just feels bad, it shouldn’t cost the DAO $90k to distribute $15k…. I’m surprised the numbers are not flipped around, feels like a bit of a gut punch to the 200+ builders who’ve built out their projects on Flows. > > >
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flows---development-ask-(final)@0x073f...2e63 We are proposing a complete revamp of the Flows protocol and platform which will take months. How do you propose we build that without being paid? We already cut our salaries 20%, and they're already well below market rate. I'd love to request more funds to pay builders, but the DAO has voted against us twice now to do that (as did you). Our last 2 props to fund existing Flows builders did not pass. I'm upset about that, but the reality is the breakeven movement does not want to fund existing Flows. It's clear we must chart a new path and show that Flows can generate revenue before we fund more public goods. > > > This just feels bad, it shouldn’t cost the DAO $90k to distribute $15k…. I’m surprised the numbers are not flipped around, feels like a bit of a gut punch to the 200+ builders who’ve built out their projects on Flows. >
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flows---development-ask-(final)@0x6a02...80F4 🫡 > > > > Our goal: make all Flows funded projects self-sustainable, and give upside to Nouns. > > That's what we need. Good pivot. > > At this smaller scale, I think it's a wise bet on a possible new inflow for the DAO. > > just please take it easy with the AI 🙏 > > Prove it works on a small scale, with manual processes, before you try and add AI to scale it. If we can't make it work with human judgment, there's no way we'll be able to do it with AI. >
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# Flows.wtf - the Nouns incubator (final) In Prop 776, we wanted to build out a sustainable version of Flows *while also supporting existing grantees*. The DAO's breakeven movement made it clear they don't want to fund outright philanthropy. So -- we want to pivot. A full reset. New Flows, new requirements, new tools for builders. Fully focused making each Flows project self-sustainable. We plan to restructure Flows so that builders can work together to earn money via commerce and donations. We are still working out the exact details, and need runway to experiment. **Our goal:** make all Flows funded projects self-sustainable, and give upside to Nouns. > *An onchain Y Combinator for grassroots projects.* # Flows currently Imagine Flows is a company. We have 17 departments. Each department has 10-20 people. Every person is working on their own thing. No one is working together. If Nouns' superpower is parallel processing, we must get people working together towards shared growth and sustainability. **A small (non-exhaustive) example of what we want to build:** we get artists to work with product people to help the public goods builders sell T-Shirts to help sustain their work. Everyone gets a split. People work together, not alone. # The good news Nouns provides the ideal environment for onchain entrepreneurship to flourish - Passionate community willing to try what you create - Beautiful brand to build on - Initial funding to get started - Smart people willing to help you build - Public goods alignment better than a B-Corp > We believe Nouns can be an incredible incubator for onchain projects. We want to incubate projects, help them earn revenue for the entire Flows system, cut Nouns some upside, and ultimately make all of these small-scale Nounish projects sustainable. # Funding request $16k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($8k a month per person) for 5 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. $15k USDC to stream out to projects that are building towards sustainability. Total ask: $105k USDC # Revnet Model One idea we want to explore: helping projects launch revenue-backed tokens (revnets) and split issuance with the broader community. We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months to workshop what a revnet enabled Flow would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models. ![](https://i.imgur.com/ZEmLVSJ.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. ***We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper.*** # Our final ask We view Flows as the only project on the table with a chance to change the DAOs downward trajectory. Hoping to sustain auction revenue by funding one off projects did not work with $50m in the treasury, and likely won't work for $6m unless we make a big change. We believe Flows can be that change. We desperately want Nouns to succeed, it is too special. We love Nouns. We have been building for you all for nearly 3 years now. We care about this community deeply. We will not propose again after this. help us bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle - rocketman ⌐◨-◨flows---development-ask-(final)1 more month of dev work - feel more confident about delivering fully in 5 mo. vs 4
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# Flows.wtf - the Nouns incubator (final) In Prop 776, we wanted to build out a sustainable version of Flows *while also supporting existing grantees*. The DAO's breakeven movement made it clear they don't want to fund outright philanthropy. So -- we want to pivot. A full reset. New Flows, new requirements, new tools for builders. Fully focused making each Flows project self-sustainable. We plan to restructure Flows so that builders can work together to earn money via commerce and donations. We are still working out the exact details, and need runway to experiment. **Our goal:** make all Flows funded projects self-sustainable, and give upside to Nouns. > *An onchain Y Combinator for grassroots projects.* # Flows currently Imagine Flows is a company. We have 17 departments. Each department has 10-20 people. Every person is working on their own thing. No one is working together. If Nouns' superpower is parallel processing, we must get people working together towards shared growth and sustainability. **A small (non-exhaustive) example of what we want to build:** we get artists to work with product people to help the public goods builders sell T-Shirts to help sustain their work. Everyone gets a split. People work together, not alone. # The good news Nouns provides the ideal environment for onchain entrepreneurship to flourish - Passionate community willing to try what you create - Beautiful brand to build on - Initial funding to get started - Smart people willing to help you build - Public goods alignment better than a B-Corp > We believe Nouns can be an incredible incubator for onchain projects. We want to incubate projects, help them earn revenue for the entire Flows system, cut Nouns some upside, and ultimately make all of these small-scale Nounish projects sustainable. # Funding request $16k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($8k a month per person) for 4 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. $15k USDC to stream out to projects that are building towards sustainability. Total ask: $89k USDC # Revnet Model One idea we want to explore: helping projects launch revenue-backed tokens (revnets) and split issuance with the broader community. We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months to workshop what a revnet enabled Flow would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models. ![](https://i.imgur.com/ZEmLVSJ.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. ***We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper.*** # Our final ask We view Flows as the only project on the table with a chance to change the DAOs downward trajectory. Hoping to sustain auction revenue by funding one off projects did not work with $50m in the treasury, and likely won't work for $6m unless we make a big change. We believe Flows can be that change. We desperately want Nouns to succeed, it is too special. We love Nouns. We have been building for you all for nearly 3 years now. We care about this community deeply. We will not propose again after this. help us bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle - rocketman ⌐◨-◨flows---development-ask-(final)simplify
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# Flows.wtf - the Nouns incubator (final) The Nouns flywheel is broken. We fund projects. We hope to attract more bidders. Auction prices continue to fall after 3 years. I doubt Nouns will succeed unless we change how we coordinate and reward builders. With Flows, we wanted to design a system to effectively fund grassroots impact, onboard people authentically, and drive more demand for the auction. We came to the realization that this wouldn't work. Most people have no way to support Nouns. Auctions are too expensive. Projects rely on funding from Nouns that is quickly running dry. We must figure out how to make a majority of Nounish projects explicitly positive-sum and sustainable. People should want to spend money on Nouns funded projects, and that revenue should directly grow the pie for all Nouns builders. # The good news Nouns has all the pieces necessary to make onchain entrepreneurship flourish - Passionate community willing to consume what you create - Beautiful brand to build on - Initial funding to get started - Smart people willing to help you build - Public good alignment better than a B-Corp > We believe Nouns can be an incredible incubator for onchain projects. We want to incubate projects, help them earn revenue for the entire Flows system, cut Nouns some upside, and ultimately make all of these small-scale Nounish projects sustainable. # Flows currently Imagine [Flows](https://flows.wtf/) is a company. We have 17 departments. Each department has 10-20 people. *Every single person is working on their own thing.* No one is working together. If Nouns' superpower is parallel processing, we must get people working together towards shared growth and sustainability. A small (non-exhaustive) example: we get artists to work with product people to help the public goods builders create merch that helps self-sustain their work. Everyone gets a split. People work together, not alone. # Our final ask With Prop 776, we wanted to experiment with [a new direction](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) aimed at sustainability while *also supporting existing Flows projects*. The DAO's breakeven movement signaled that they're not willing to support outright charity anymore. So -- we propose a new experiment and pivot. A full reset. New Flows, new requirements, new tools for builders. Fully focused on getting people to work together, raise money via commerce and donations, and ultimately make each project self-sustainable. We are still working out the exact details, and need runway to experiment. We do not plan to propose again after this. We view Flows as the only project on the table with a clear shot to change the DAOs current downward trajectory. Hoping to sustain auction revenue by funding one off projects did not work with $50m in the treasury, and likely won't work for $6m unless we make a big change. We believe Flows can be that change. We desperately want Nouns to succeed, it is too special. We love Nouns. We have been building for you all for nearly 3 years now. We care about this community deeply. We will not propose again after this. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $16k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($8k a month per person) for 4 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. $20k USDC to stream out to projects building towards sustainability. Total ask: $94k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman # Token Model We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months now to workshop what a revnet enabled flows would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models below: ![](https://i.imgur.com/P29g9d2.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/ZEmLVSJ.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJPk6Ou.png) Another potential model with more specifics of parameters. While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. ***We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper.*** # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.flows---development-ask-(final)pivot
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@0x094B...C8B8 I respect your perspective. Thanks for caring about Nouns <3. I will say, many people on Flows are still building. I'm with you though, the Nouns flywheel is broken. The hypothesis of Nouns is: invest in things that bring attention to the brand -> more people will buy a Noun. In line with this idea, our hope was to design a system to fund grassroots impact, onboard people authentically, and drive more demand for the auction. We came to the realization recently that this won't work. Most people have no way to support Nouns. Auctions are too expensive. But - we believe we can make it easier to support Nouns through donations, commerce, and revnets. Our attempt with Prop 776 was to figure out how to make Flows sustainable, so that many more people can build on the Nouns brand. Turn Nouns into a seed-investor in projects. A startup of startups. We want to incubate projects that earn revenue for the entire Flows system, cut Nouns some upside, and ultimately make all of these small-scale Nounish projects sustainable. I'm happy to pivot fully and work towards building this vision, while cutting back existing Flows. I still believe in Nouns, and don't see any other solutions on the table to fix our downward spiral. Voting down props at the last minute with widespread support while presenting no alternative solutions to fix the flywheel is counter-productive. Let's brainstorm together. What is your vision for Nouns? Let's hop on a call. > > > The treasury we steward today is limited. In that context, I personally believe we should be cautious about using funds to actively “incentivize behavior.” I want to help build a community that resembles something like the Linux Kernel—an open, mission-aligned ecosystem where contributors gather out of belief, not compensation. If the community disappears when incentives stop, we never had a true community to begin with. > > The risk I see is this: the more we normalize continuous funding as the default, the more we build structural dependencies. Over time, this can form a well-meaning but entrenched interest group whose operations rely on ongoing funding. If we ever need to cut back, the social cost and backlash may become too high. I'd rather face that challenge early, while it’s still manageable. > > I want to emphasize that I respect the intentions behind this and similar proposals. I understand the motivation to build systems that fund impactful grassroots work—and I agree we need better tools for that. But I don’t believe Nouns, as it stands today, is ready to play the role of a philanthropic foundation. We are a small DAO with under $8M in liquid assets and facing structural burn. At this stage, I believe we need to think like a startup—prioritizing sustainability, discipline, and alignment over scale. > > That doesn’t mean we stop supporting creativity or experimentation. But we need to be clear-eyed about tradeoffs and avoid easy answers that feel good in the short term but harm us in the long run. > > I will do the hard and necessary work now—so that Nouns can last. >
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# Flows - development ask (final) We decided to split our Flows prop into two. One that funds development to improve the protocol, and one to fund Flows budgets. We hope this significantly reduced budget satisfies the breakeven camp. We acknowledge the Nouns attention flywheel is not working to sustain treasury spend. We have adjusted our ask as much as we can to reflect this reality. That being said, we view Flows as the only project on the table with a clear shot to change the DAOs current downward trajectory. Hoping to sustain auction revenue by funding one off projects did not work with $50m in the treasury, and likely won't work for $5m unless we make a big change. We believe Flows can be that change. We desperately want Nouns to succeed, it is too special. We love Nouns. We have been building in this nounish ecosystem for nearly 3 years now. We care about this community deeply. We will not propose again after this. We hope we to keep building for Nouns ⌐◨-◨ **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced timeline (8 months of dev work -> 4 months) - Reduced salaries by 20% ($10k/mo -> $8k/mo) - Overall dev costs $160k -> $64k # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting experience for nouners + large voting block fix - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Better verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes exploring: - Revnet upgrade (with issuance split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $16k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 4 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Total ask: $74k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman # Token Model We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months now slowly workshopping what a revnet enabled flows would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models below: ![](https://i.imgur.com/P29g9d2.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJPk6Ou.png) Another potential model with more specifics of parameters. While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper. # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.flows---development-ask-(final)
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@0x6fB5...83b0 Why do you think flows is an ineffective way to distribute capital? We have a <10% rug rate, which is better than the Nouns treasury, and we're funding 100x the number of projects per dollar spent. I'm constantly looking for ways to improve and break the model, but sweeping assertions aren't very helpful. Would love if you could expand on your rationale please. To address your other point directly - Flows does not outsource governance - Nouners decide allocations with their votes. We just make it easier to fund more high quality projects. > > > I don’t believe Flows is an effective way to distribute capital. I purchased a Noun to participate in governance alongside other token holders, not to have that responsibility outsourced. Flows removes my ability to meaningfully influence where and how funds are allocated. > > For me, governance isn’t a burden. It’s the reason I’m here. If any Nouners feel tired of that responsibility, I encourage you to delegate your vote to someone who’s eager to engage. > I have doubts Nouns can succeed on its current trajectory funding a few large projects a quarter. If you disagree with me there, that's fine. In my opinion, the world where Nouns succeeds looks a lot more like small grants and less like large VC bets. In that world, I hope we can both agree that individuals vetting projects manually like in Prop House will not scale to fund thousands of projects effectively. If you think it can, I'd be curious to know how? When I asked you on your rounds topic, you didn't have any convincing answers. Anyways, appreciate feedback as always. Trying to get some more insights into your thought process so we can improve the protocol. I remain committed to helping Nouns succeed however I can.
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wrote up a nice pitch for Flows after some folks asked. my dms are open for any questions. let's scale nouns and complete the virtuous cycle ⌐◨-◨ https://mirror.xyz/rocketman21.eth/ZnpRanoejXaifBgJwuMSEPa9-nJWdrlaFF3eQxxNrM0
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@0x1368...5F20 Appreciate the feedback. We are on the same page about highlighting impact. We have been working so much on the backend + accountability framework because we need rock solid data before we can summarize and show it on a higher level accurately. As I replied to Jane: We are actively working to use less closed source AI, we are working towards making projects sustainable so it's not a payroll system, and I added more details about revnets in this edit. > > > First off i have to say that I absolutely love and support flows and @rocketman and all of teh builders that have been consistently elevating nouns world wide. I do have to agree with Jane about a token , use of closed AI, and that the Dao is not a payroll system. I would love to see flows work as a small grant system that then graduates to a prophouse like round and hopefully go towards full on chain proposals for larger funds/streams. Most importantly I would love to see a better system of documentation, cataloging and sharing the wonderful accomplishments of the community not just on farcaster but on all media, perhaps set up weekly bounties on posts and projects that get the most traction and shares. In my opinion there is a lot of focus on the back end framework and accounting and not enough focused on getting the message of nouns out to the world beyond the FC channel . Happy to assist where possible and hope that this helps >
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# flows.wtf development v2 **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced ask ($575k -> $270k) - Commit to prioritize curation tooling, impact overviews, and accountability + capital efficiency dashboards before building revnets - Clarified potential model for revnets + commit to split min 10% issuance w/Nouns DAO # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting experience for nouners + large voting block fix - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Better verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes exploring: - Revnet upgrade (with issuance split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 5 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $32.5k a month for the next 5 months to fund flows builders. (we will reserve $5k a month for the last 4 months to fund matching pools). Total ask: $270k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman # Token Model We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months now slowly workshopping what a revnet enabled flows would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models below: ![](https://i.imgur.com/P29g9d2.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJPk6Ou.png) Another potential model with more specifics of parameters. While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper. # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.
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@0x39a7...aBc0 Hey Jane, thanks for the early signal so we can make adjustments. I have some edits going live to address your feedback shortly. 1. Edited the timeline and budget to better reflect the milestone setup you requested. Budget is now $270k vs. the original $575k. 2. Appreciate the nudge here - I added a link to figma + two possible token models we are thinking about for the revnet system. Let me know if you have any other questions or ideas here, we value your input. Per your last feedback, we also commit to splitting at least 10% of the issuance with Nouns DAO. 3. I just updated the website to support up to 36 nouns. Let me know if you are able to vote now. Base has increased the gas limit every week. This lets the Flows contracts take more proofs in a single txn. I also added another item to our roadmap - handling large voting transactions more gracefully - if those fixes are still necessary after the update today. Let me know if it works for you! We recently introduced dynamic quorum on salary pools, so as more votes come in, the pools will scale up. They are no longer fixed at 25%. 4. We are actively working to use less closed source AI. There will be strong open source reasoning models soon. Current open source models are not smart enough for some of the pipelines we have though. I expect this to change in the next few months and will keep you updated as we continue to shift towards open source models. 5. I agree the DAO should not be a forever funding payroll for non-sustainable projects. This is the whole reason we want to upgrade Flows to enable more capital inflows. We also plan to grade builders on their ability to become sustainable / raise funds. We are on the same page here, we just need the runway to build it out. 6. I understand this point. I'd ask folks getting paid through Flows to abstain. Please don't vote us down just because we are funding Nouns holders though. Hope that makes sense. > > > Thank you, Rocketman, for the revised proposal. I appreciate the efforts you’ve made to reduce the budget and prioritize accountability tooling. It’s clear you’re listening to the community and adapting. That said, I still cannot support this proposal in its current form. Let me explain why: > > ### 1. **The Budget Remains Too Large** > > You’ve mentioned Break Even Movement should “smooth out” capital flows when voting. But this proposal still asks for $435K upfront. Why not take a “smooth” approach—split the budget into milestones incrementally, and let the DAO assess results before committing more capital? > > ### 2. **Token Model Still Unknown ** > > In the previous round, multiple members of the community asked for a clear tokenomics simulation. How will this token work? Who receives how much? What are the expected flows of capital, voting power, and upside? None of that has been modeled or shared. Without a working token design, I can’t justify approving a multi-hundred-thousand-dollar allocation. > > ### 3. **Large voting block cannot Influence Flows.wtf cash flows** > > It's hard for large Noun holders (30+ votes) to influence how Flows funds are allocated. Until there’s an easy mechanism for large voting block like 5gram and me can manage your internal treasury distribution, I will continue to vote NO. And the baseline “salary” allocations(75%) are too high, I need to see this parameter go down to below 25%. > > ### 4. **No to Closed AI** > > Please don't use Claude/OpenAI. Using DAO funds to enrich closed, centralized AI models is a hard NO from me. > > ### 5. **DAO Is Not a Payroll System** > > The DAO is not here to provide recurring salaries indefinitely. If a project cannot survive without continued subsidy from the DAO, it may not be the right fit. I deeply believe in the public goods spirit—but that doesn’t mean guaranteed income. For context: **OpenBSD’s 2025 funding goal is $400K**, and that project secures the global internet. This proposal exceeds that amount. > > ### 6. **No Funding Structures That Create Vote Buying Dynamics** > > Flows distributes DAO funds. If these funds are then used to influence voters who are themselves beneficiaries, that crosses the line into implicit vote buying. This undermines the integrity of governance. I oppose any system that blurs these lines. > > ------ > > I appreciate all the value Flows has created so far. I know this isn’t an easy system to build. But if we want it to become a sustainable layer of Nouns governance, it must meet a higher bar for financial clarity, openness, and alignment with DAO-wide control structures. > > I’m always open to future collaboration and hope to support a tighter, more accountable version of this vision down the line. > I appreciate all the feedback you have given so far. Our goal is to make Flows sustainable so that Nouns can succeed and have massive impact around the world. We are constantly working towards more financial transparency, openness, and alignment with voter consensus. Hope this puts your concerns to rest. Happy to chat over voice/DMs further if you want. Really want to get this passed so we don't lose the builders we have onboarded through Flows, as salaries have now stopped fully. Thanks for your time - rocketman.
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# flows.wtf development v2 **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced ask ($575k -> $270k) - Commit to prioritize curation tooling, impact overviews, and accountability + capital efficiency dashboards before building revnets - Clarified potential model for revnets + commit to split min 10% issuance w/Nouns DAO # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting experience for nouners + large voting block fix - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Better verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes exploring: - Revnet upgrade (with issuance split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 5 months. $10k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $32.5k a month for the next 5 months to fund flows builders. (we will reserve $5k a month for the last 4 months to fund matching pools). Total ask: $270k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman # Token Model We've been working with jango.eth from Juicebox for a few months now slowly workshopping what a revnet enabled flows would look like. We are still unsure on the exact specifics, but are sharing some potential models below: ![](https://i.imgur.com/P29g9d2.png) Check out a more in depth view on this [Figma](https://www.figma.com/board/hsO8a2NXBCZaNml8kMUNMZ/Welcome-to-FigJam?node-id=0-1&p=f&t=IpAuhnZ7kHnGpzTL-0). ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJPk6Ou.png) Another potential model with more specifics of parameters. While we are not exactly sure what the final form will look like, we hope this provides some more insights into our approach for those interested. We commit to publicly workshopping these parameters with anyone who cares to participate. We also commit to splitting a min. of 10% of revnet tokens with Nouns DAO proper. # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.flows.wtf-development-v2-update
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# flows.wtf development v2 **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced ask ($575k -> $435k) - Commit to prioritize curation tooling, impact overviews, and accountability + capital efficiency dashboards before building revnets - Commit to split min 10% revnet issuance w/Nouns DAO # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our short-medium term focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting experience for nouners - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Better verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes exploring: - Revnet upgrade (with issuance split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $32.5k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. (we will reserve $5k a month for the last 4 months to fund matching pools). Total ask: $435k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.
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bringing-back-small-grants@0x2897...c84F yea that's fair I can see how at smaller scales with these communities if you have enough invested members it could work. just feel like you're working with a scarce resource (attention of intelligent voters) that is not likely to last esp. if funding scales. > def think there's a need for lump sum grants to come back. curious how you are handling accountability/impact verification and if flows can take any lessons from you
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bringing-back-small-grants@0x2897...c84F yea i get that. we should value those that can deliver not people that figure out how to win funding though. im just curious how you all make sure funding goes to quality projects. afaik prop house wasn't great at this because it required a lot of effort from voters and they got nothing in return. what's the new insight w/ nouns.gg rounds? imo still an unsolved problem in grant-making just curious how you're approaching it > def think there's a need for lump sum grants to come back. curious how you are handling accountability/impact verification and if flows can take any lessons from you
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# flows.wtf development v2 **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced ask ($575k -> $435k) - Commit to prioritize curation tooling, impact overviews, and accountability + capital efficiency dashboards before building revnets - Commit to split min 10% revnet issuance w/Nouns DAO # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our short-medium term focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting experience for nouners - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Better verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes exploring: - Revnet upgrade (with issuance split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $32.5k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. (we will reserve $5k a month for the last 4 months to fund matching pools). Total ask: $435k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.flows.wtf-development-v2simplified
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bringing-back-small-grantsdef think there's a need for lump sum grants to come back. curious how you are handling accountability/impact verification and if flows can take any lessons from you
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# flows.wtf development v2 **tldr of the changes since our last** [prop](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/776) - Significantly reduced ask ($575k -> $435k) - Reduce flows budgets ask from $50k / mo. to $32.5k / mo. - Commit to prioritize curation tooling, impact overviews, and accountability + capital efficiency dashboards before building revnets - Commit to split min 10% revnet issuance w/Nouns DAO - Ask ETH for our salaries since DAO payer contract is nearly empty # The prop (revised) 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. Check out our impact at the bottom of the prop. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. > We want to solve effective capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # Our commitment We have adjusted our short-medium term focus after feedback on our last proposal. Our main focus for the forseeable future will be improving curator tooling, builder accountability, and impact tracking infrastructure on the website to ensure capital is allocated as effectively as possible. This includes: - Tools to improve the curator experience - Improved voting UI - Builder profile pages - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Better builder accountability features - Improvements to the challenge and feedback flows - Onchain verification of builder impact - Impact summaries on flow/homepage level After we have improved the core tooling for better insights into effective capital allocation, we plan to address the larger underlying problem of Flows being zero-sum. This includes: - The revnet upgrade (with split to Nouns) - Matching pools to encourage capital input - Contract upgrades to let anyone donate to flows We commit to work incredibly hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $32.5k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. (we will reserve $5k a month for the last 4 months to fund matching pools). Total ask: $435k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.flows.wtf-development-v2
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@0x39a7...aBc0 i understand the need for urgency given treasury outflow. i think you can simultaneously: - be strict with spending as you have been - smooth out cash flows if you stick with your principles over a longer time horizon - don't vote down everything after this prop and make us turn away great builders. feels like an overly blunt solution. simply vote for great props you believe will drive value back to the dao and be strict with your bets - vote for this prop as one of the only clear technology bets to make nouns sustainable. im confident we can drive tangible value back to the dao via revnets on that note: - i think flows will continue to drive meaningful demand for nouns. already know some folks who bought their first noun after being onboarded to flows. grass roots impact is a better sell than any marketing we can do - if we structure the revnets well, it will drive demand for nouns and/or grow treasury through the token split ultimately our goal is to sustainably fund as many quality builders as possible. we are aligned with each other there. the original rationale behind this proposal was to find a new way to bring in outside capital to fund nouns builders. nfts sales alone don't seem to be cutting it. take a bet on some technology that is forging a new path towards #nounsbreakeven > > > Check our 1 year cash flow [here](https://www.nounswap.wtf/stats/treasury?time=1Y), I don't see there is anyway that we can smooth this out to achieve the long term break even if we don't kick it start in a more strict way. > > I like the product in its way, but I can't really justify the cost at our current financial status. > > +1 > > > @0x39a7...aBc0 > > > > not sure why you need to block all props, spending can be smoothed out over a longer time frame? also the plan with this one is to drive value back to the DAO via revnets, so not sure it should count as a full outflow? > > > > > > > > > > > If this prop pass, #NounsBreakEvenMovement will start vote down all props with any spending in the next 3-4 month until we become net positive again. > > > > > > If that is what the community wants. I can make it pass using my vote, but are you ready for what's coming next? > > > > > > > > > You’ve offered us two paths—but I see a third :) “Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.”
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@0x05A1...011c the extra $10k a month is earmarked for matching pools that encourage folks to bring in outside capital. in any case we won't move up from $40k until we're sure 95% of builders are great. building all the infra for this right now. also willing to scale it back and extend runway until funding is more accurate/accountable if we identify enough underperforming folks > > > Big fan of flows' vision, team, and execution so far, particularly the integration of AI and Farcaster. > > There's def room for improvement, and it sounds like the team understands this well. While I'm strongly in favor of funding continued development and keeping the flows flowing at current rates, I'm not fully convinced that the platform is ready to allocate $50k/mo tbh. Still, I'm willing to make the bet here. > > IF this doesn't pass, would love to see a prop to fund continued development and flows at the current rate, then ramp up the flows amount steadily once the model is more battle tested and validated. If this does pass, I understand we'll need to slow down on funding, but don't think we should halt. >
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@0x39a7...aBc0 not sure why you need to block all props, spending can be smoothed out over a longer time frame? also the plan with this one is to drive value back to the DAO via revnets, so not sure it should count as a full outflow? > > > If this prop pass, #NounsBreakEvenMovement will start vote down all props with any spending in the next 3-4 month until we become net positive again. > > If that is what the community wants. I can make it pass using my vote, but are you ready for what's coming next? > You’ve offered us two paths—but I see a third :)
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@0xjanedoe before you vote, I ask you to consider this: - there are 46 voters For (many more in nouncil), 16 against - flows is the best capital allocation system for nouns we've had yet - there are many problems we need to solve especially around accountability and curation tooling. those are top priority for us after the feedback in this prop - willing to commit onchain to doing a split of revnet tokens to the treasury (at least 10%), should've made this more clear in the prop
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agreed on DAO upside. would love to either: - price the root revnet in nouns - split a significant % with the DAO happy to explore this with the broader community. the first option feels more aligned? we discussed on lils call today delegating curation tokens to community members who show strong interest in curating, so probably need to try to do both either way. eod - agreed we dont want to become the next agora. re: vc validation, not sure why you think we need validation from VCs? i think we could pretty easily raise a seed round, not sure what that would show. dao has funded plenty of things for larger amounts that had no venture investment. we're trying to forge a better path anyways, appreciate the feedback! +1 > I appreciate the vision and contributions that Rocketman has made to the ecosystem — Flows is one of the most ambitious attempts to reimagine bottom-up funding in crypto. However, I will be voting NO on this proposal for the following reasons: > > 1. DAO Has No Long-Term Stake in $FLOWs Token. > Flows is moving toward a tokenized revnet system, and yet Nouns DAO — the only funding source to date — is not explicitly included in the token design. > Without equity, protocol fees, or token allocations for Nouns, there is no structural mechanism for the DAO to benefit from Flows’ upside. > We’ve seen this before with other projects that launched tokens after being incubated by the DAO, only to exclude Nouns from the long-term value loop. **I do not want Flows to become another Agora.** > > 2. Funding Scale Requires VC Validation. > Flows already received significant early-stage support from the DAO, well beyond what traditional incubators would commit. > A follow-on ask of $575k should ideally be de-risked through outside validation. > If the team can secure venture support — and I’m happy to help introduce them — I would feel more comfortable backing the next round of DAO support. VC validation would show that the tokenomics are sound and that Flows is building a market-aligned, sustainable product.
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things-worth-fixinggreat write up. speaking to the governance side specifically: i'm pretty convinced that relying on large proposals as our grant-giving mechanism is fundamentally flawed. too much effort required from voters, can only pay a small # of builders, lots of back scratching/collusion, not enough accountability, people take votes personally, the list goes on. maybe ai can manage everyone's preferences as a delegate, but the experience as a builder would still be subpar. my hunch is trying to bandaid it with improvements won't change the core problem of exchanging very high effort from voters for medium signal funding. will do some more thinking today, but gut says skeuomorphic political mechanisms are not a good path. proposed solutions seem to add more complexity to an already confusing product for builders
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@0xA868...9E63 i hear you. tried to make this prop highlight a big problem we see and outline a way we're going to explore fixing it. ultimately we're still going to be building every day to improve the core protocol, just like we've been doing. probably could have been less specific, but hope that makes sense > > > This might be unfair to rocketman and team as its more of a meta-gripe but I wish this proposal was more like: > "We did this, this and that, accomplishing impactful thing x and growing primary metric y. We want to continue to build the best way for Nouns to do z and asking for $x to last us another 6 months." > > I get the feeling good teams that "should" be renewed shoot themselves in the foot by being too flowery and unintentionally end up obfuscating the info that actually matter. > > Its easier for me to vote For giving Flows team 6 months of runway based on past achievements than it is to "approve" everything in this prop. >
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@0x6a02...80F4 gm folks - seeing feedback about our focus. i want to be clear: it should only take a month or two to implement the revnets experiment. we're not betting the entire future of flows on whether it works or not. it won't block us from continuing to improve the core protocol. we still plan to spend the majority of our time on improving the core platform, including solving for everything volky mentioned. actually planning to prioritize most of those items first > > > I think this proposal is taking flows in the wrong direction. Revnets is an unproven mechanism, and there's no data (neither real-world usage or simulations) to support the claim that it will bring in more funding and collaboration. > > I fear that we have many insidious problems in the protocol that need to be addressed before we double down on the current design: > > ## Transparency/readability > > Flows is very opaque right now. We don't have the dashboards we need to make sense of the data, track trends and trust that it's evolving sustainably. > > If anything, the feedback from several builders that they're not getting enough seems to indicate it's not sustainable. It might be best to direct more funding to fewer projects with wider impact (public goods) instead of spreading it out too thin. > > Visualizing those trends is essential to make the right calls. I don't know if you have those dashboards for yourself, or if you track that data, but it should be available to the DAO. > > ## Low curation activity > > I don't think flows is being curated nearly enough. I think some design decisions impose most of the work on curators, and there's not enough incentive for them to do it: > - submissions being default approved if not challenged > - the lack of a unified dashboard to quickly review all flows you can vote on > - an in-app feed with the actual fc posts from the builders so you can review the updates they're posting. The AI summaries are noisy and not helpful IMO > - Brewing conflicts: the challenge process pits builders against curators and makes challenging flows a VERY unpleasant experience. > > I think this last one is especially worrisome. I see many builders ranting about being challenged, and I think no curator wants to deal with that, so you'll see less and less activity from them. > > At the end of the day, curation is A LOT of work to do, and I think more of the burden should be shifted towards people that are getting the grants. > > Making it too easy to get your flow approved (only requires lack of curator oversight), and too difficult to cancel (stressful a laborious challenging process) favors the accumulation of low-quality flows and spreads the funds out too thin. I think there needs to be recurrent (monthly) opt-ins by curators to keep a flow up instead. > > ## Conflicts of interest > > Several voters are currently being funded by flows. There couldn't be a more explicit conflict of interest with the DAO than that. > > Not saying we should try and fix it in the protocol, but I would at least expect as a social norm that flows grantees abstain from voting on flows props. (Nouncil included) > > --- > > I would be supportive of another prop addressing those problems. I don't think this one is focusing on the core issues. > > I also encourage you to split the props between one that requests more funds to keep flows going (only requires directional support from the DAO), and another with proposed updates to the protocol (more nuanced and requires more input from the DAO). > > That way, it should be easier to secure the funding to ensure the continuation of flows while giving us more time to iterate and improve on the protocol. You've mentioned a lot of feedback from builders in the previous comments, but no feedback from curators at all. >
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@0x0Bed...03FD hey - not sure if this is an ai, but we included a cost breakdown at the bottom and also how we're going to measure success, namely the number of quality builders sustainably funded. > The proposal lacks a detailed financial breakdown and clear financial KPIs. While it introduces an innovative concept with revnets, it does not provide a concrete plan for financial returns or a detailed budget for the proposed changes. The proposal also lacks specific metrics for measuring success and impact, making it difficult to assess its potential benefits to Nouns DAO.
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@0x560D...79E6 re: streaming nouns after a lock period - this is on our roadmap - agreed. re: complexity, idk how else to stress this but the UX of the site will really not change much from introduction of revnets/matching pools. re: "'One builder's success is everyone's success' will lead to an imbalanced impact and discomfort from the best builders, disincentivizing them to improve when they benefit others." What rationale do you have that this will be the case? If there is a clear incentive for a builder to collaborate, grow the pie for everyone in the process, and still retain a large amount of upside themselves, it's a no brainer? Either way, it's much more preferable to what we have now where everyone fights over scraps of a fixed budget. That's zero sum. What we are proposing is not. re: automated reports prevent builders from being accountable / self-aware of their impact. Builders are still expected to post valid grant updates and build in public and share their impact. If you don't make impact, you will be removed. If you visit a grant page, you can see what someone has built over time very clearly based on their Farcaster posts. The automation exists to help people organize. Ultimately they are still responsible for making impact, and they are absolutely accountable to it. re: quadratically distributing revenue based on proven impact - this is exactly what we plan to experiment with via these matching pools - nice idea. re: qualitative data - I talk to builders every day and respond to everyone + fix their problems, on the same page here. re: little action from curators - there are many challenges from human curators every week, not sure what you mean. I agree we can do more to build an accountable system for humans to add their unique touch. We are working on it. re: flows not being a good testing ground to grow out MVPs, what makes you say that? Nouns95 and many of these meetups/live music events/cleanups/gardens etc are all clear examples to me. I agree maybe we can help champion larger initiatives with larger budgets, but I think Flows is working beautifully to this end. Most of the builders would never have gotten any funding from Nouns, and now they have a foothold in the space to grow from. > @0x6fB5...83b0 > > This mimics the 'proof of work' mechanics we implemented at Nouns Amigos, incentivizing builders to execute successfully. It increased accountability and due diligence when reporting, and it would be great to include it. > > > > > > > What if grant recipients received a stream of equity into a Treasury Noun, vested alongside their USDC grant? The equity would follow the same vesting schedule, but it could only be claimed once their Flow has reached an average daily auction price of, say, 2 ETH. > > > > > @0x2897...c84F > > Agree on the level of complexity and that it doesn't change the competitive mindset. 'One builder's success is everyone's success' will lead to an imbalanced impact and discomfort from the best builders, disincentivizing them to improve when they benefit others. My gut says this would need some quadratic voting to distribute revenue based on proven impact. Also, while getting automated reports is convenient, it prevents them from being accountable and self-aware of their impact. > > > @0x6a02...80F4 > > > > I hear you on complexity. One thing to note: the user experience won't change much. We're mainly adding two simple things—buying into revnets and opportunities to earn more through matching pools. All the complexity is managed in the backend. > > > > We're building a global co-op where everyone's rewarded for working together to fundraise and create positive impact. > > > > Revnets attract more funding than pure donations because: > > 1. Contributors receive tokens instead of nothing. > > 2. Every revnet is tied directly to the broader Flows network. Buying into one project helps the entire ecosystem grow, rather than just an isolated effort. > > > > Many of our projects qualify for external grants, mint content, or sell products. While revenue potential varies by category, revnets give every project a clear baseline product to raise funds effectively from the start. > > > > Builders earn revnet tokens and matching-pool bonuses when they put their revenue into the revnet tree. Launching a revnet will require splitting project tokens with the broader Flows network, ensuring continuous collective growth. Basically, builders put revenue into their revnets because it’s financially smarter to grow together, aligning everyone's incentives around collective success rather than isolated effort. > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to make sense of the proposed mechanism. That's a lot to digest. > > > > > > My gut reaction is against adding more complexity on top of an already very complex setup. I worry about how legible this will be to both Curators and Builders. > > > > > > Can you try your best to give a simple explainer, targeting the audience of Curators and Builders? How would you explain this system to someone with a basic understanding of crypto, or none at all? > > > > > > --- > > > > > > From what I gathered reading the prop and skimming the revnets memo, its purpose is to distribute revenue between participants while aligning incentives. But those docs reference systems that have products with customers as a revenue stream. > > > > > > In the case of Flows, it would rely purely on donations, right? > > > > > > How would this system help Builders get more donations than they can already manage to get on their own? > > > > > > What incentives do Builders that get their own donations/ make their own sales have to distribute some of that with Flows instead of working on their own to keep all of it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @0x2897...c84F > > Well, that's the surface, and it only reflects an obvious need across the board: people need more income. I suggest getting qualitative data from builders/curators to make sense of the quantitative data. > > > @0x6a02...80F4 > > > > Curator effectiveness (high signal funding) is different than growing the flows pie. I'll address both: > > > > The biggest feedback we've heard from builders over the last 6 months is: "how do I earn more money? why do I have to ask for votes to earn?". I don't agree that we can solve this problem manually asking for money more via props while the method we allocate capital (zero-sum beg for votes) remains the same. We need a tight feedback loop for builders to let them earn more on the ground while growing the pie for everyone. Also - this path has more incentive alignment and direct value accrual to nouns builders vs. having builders convince people to buy nouns then getting a prop passed to fund flows but not seeing your earnings grow - (flows builders are still buying nouns though). > > > > I don't necessarily agree the DAO should be taking "safe bets" given our current treasury trajectory, we should be bold with our proposals. I've talked to the revnet team extensively and thought through a ton of edge cases about the implementation. Still working on finding ways it can break / be simplified, but my conviction grows every week. Will work on simplifying the proposal to communicate the idea better. > > > > Re: metrics and giving more visibility into flows, agreed fully here. There's a good bit of action from curators, AI is just serving as a baseline safety net. Will work on dashboards and adjust the prop to reflect this. Also - > > moving to revnets will grow incentives for curators to behave well. > > > > > @0x2897...c84F > > > > > > > increasing flows budget, I'd love to. I think flows is easily the highest impact way for Nouns to spend money. Just unsure given current treasury size if people are willing to stomach more than $50k a month. > > > > > > I think increasing the flows budget is a simpler pathway to growing the pie right now, and a safer bet for the DAO. And there's already a pathway, although less explicit, for Builders to grow the pie: it's via proliferating Nouns and referring new people back to the DAO > > > > > > Flows is the best experiment for reliably doing good things in the world and realizing the purpose of the DAO I've seen yet. We should double down on it. > > > > > > But I don't think it's time to make considerable changes to the protocol. It has been operating for only 6 months, and this is too soon to get an accurate read on the current strategy. > > > > > > I'm also not confident we really know what's happening inside flows right now. We need better data and better dashboards. > > > > > > My feeling is we're overwhelmingly relying on AIs to oversee the whole operation, and I see little action from curators. I doubt that strategy works in the long term because as builders learn how to optimize those automated metrics they become meaningless (Goodhart's Law). > > > > > > I think before we step up the protocol, we need to establish a culture of due diligence and ensure we're funding the things we should be funding. Curators are the only sustainable way of keeping a high bar on the impact of funded builders, so we've got to ensure there are enough of them and that they're active. > > > > > > Can you share data on curator activity across all flows? I think we're missing that data, and it would tell us a lot about the current state of the protocol. > > > > > > important metrics: > > > - curator diversity/vote concentration per flow > > > - number of votes per flow > > > - overall distribution of flow scores (histogram) > > > - how many flows have been challenged. how many continued vs were cancelled > > > - how is this data trending historically? are we consistently attracting more builders, more curators? > > > > > > I'm very supportive of Flows, but not convinced of the plan laid out in this proposal yet. That data might convince me. > > > > > > > > > > @0x7f64...d6d2 > > > > > > > > We've mostly seen builders collab / share resources when it's explicitly incentivized eg: in the Builder Kits flow. Outside of that, there's been competition because flows is zero sum, everyone is fighting over fixed budget / attention from nouners for votes. > > > > > > > > That's what we're trying to solve with this prop. The structure of flows doesn't incentivize anyone to work together, because there's no way to grow the pie. It's hard to get any quantitative data for you given that fact. I'll let @jango chime in on revnets in general > > > > > > > > re: increasing flows budget, I'd love to. I think flows is easily the highest impact way for Nouns to spend money. Just unsure given current treasury size if people are willing to stomach more than $50k a month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Builders earn revnet tokens and matching-pool bonuses when they put their revenue into the revnet tree. Launching a revnet will require splitting project tokens with the broader Flows network, ensuring continuous collective growth. Basically, builders put revenue into their revnets because it’s financially smarter to grow together, aligning everyone's incentives around collective success rather than isolated effort." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Any examples or evidence of similar behavior exhibited by any of the flows participants today? Actual hard numbers will be good to know. This currently feels hypothetical. > > > > > > > > > > - Ideally you would want to get a sliver of qualitative or even better quantitative data regarding demand for such, before introducing such a fundamental upgrade to the protocol. > > > > > > > > > > Given Nouns is main funding body for flows, currently its grant-making mechanism only utilised by Nouns. > > > > > Why not just increase Flows operating budget (more than 40k$/month) in the interim while you prove out this demand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > "Builders earn revnet tokens and matching-pool bonuses when they put their revenue into the revnet tree. Launching a revnet will require splitting project tokens with the broader Flows network, ensuring continuous collective growth. Basically, builders put revenue into their revnets because it’s financially smarter to grow together, aligning everyone's incentives around collective success rather than isolated effort." > > > > > > > > > > > > - Any examples or evidence of similar behavior exhibited by any of the flows participants today? Actual hard numbers will be good to know. This currently feels hypothetical. > > > > > > > > - Ideally you would want to get a sliver of qualitative or even better quantitative data regarding demand for such, before introducing such a fundamental upgrade to the protocol. > > > > > > > > Given Nouns is main funding body for flows, currently its grant-making mechanism only utilised by Nouns. > > > > Why not just increase Flows operating budget (more than 40k$/month) in the interim while you prove out this demand. > > > > > > > > > @0x6a02...80F4 > > "My feeling is we're overwhelmingly relying on AIs to oversee the whole operation, and I see little action from curators." > > Agree. Unless you perfect an unbiased and bullet-proof AI model to neutrally validate impact/success, getting input from real people is still needed. At Nouns Amigos, we introduced the Amigos Gardeners to validate (to a certain extent) that people were executing. This has worked well because a) their social credit score is on the line, b) funding is subject to successful milestones (think propdates), and c) the 'proof of work' mechanics to earn an AMIGO token (with voting rights). Having gardeners improved the use of funds with a 100% rate of certainty that the funds are well spent. > > > @0x2897...c84F > > > > > increasing flows budget, I'd love to. I think flows is easily the highest impact way for Nouns to spend money. Just unsure given current treasury size if people are willing to stomach more than $50k a month. > > > > I think increasing the flows budget is a simpler pathway to growing the pie right now, and a safer bet for the DAO. And there's already a pathway, although less explicit, for Builders to grow the pie: it's via proliferating Nouns and referring new people back to the DAO > > > > Flows is the best experiment for reliably doing good things in the world and realizing the purpose of the DAO I've seen yet. We should double down on it. > > > > But I don't think it's time to make considerable changes to the protocol. It has been operating for only 6 months, and this is too soon to get an accurate read on the current strategy. > > > > I'm also not confident we really know what's happening inside flows right now. We need better data and better dashboards. > > > > My feeling is we're overwhelmingly relying on AIs to oversee the whole operation, and I see little action from curators. I doubt that strategy works in the long term because as builders learn how to optimize those automated metrics they become meaningless (Goodhart's Law). > > > > I think before we step up the protocol, we need to establish a culture of due diligence and ensure we're funding the things we should be funding. Curators are the only sustainable way of keeping a high bar on the impact of funded builders, so we've got to ensure there are enough of them and that they're active. > > > > Can you share data on curator activity across all flows? I think we're missing that data, and it would tell us a lot about the current state of the protocol. > > > > important metrics: > > - curator diversity/vote concentration per flow > > - number of votes per flow > > - overall distribution of flow scores (histogram) > > - how many flows have been challenged. how many continued vs were cancelled > > - how is this data trending historically? are we consistently attracting more builders, more curators? > > > > I'm very supportive of Flows, but not convinced of the plan laid out in this proposal yet. That data might convince me. > > > > > > > @0x7f64...d6d2 > > > > > > We've mostly seen builders collab / share resources when it's explicitly incentivized eg: in the Builder Kits flow. Outside of that, there's been competition because flows is zero sum, everyone is fighting over fixed budget / attention from nouners for votes. > > > > > > That's what we're trying to solve with this prop. The structure of flows doesn't incentivize anyone to work together, because there's no way to grow the pie. It's hard to get any quantitative data for you given that fact. I'll let @jango chime in on revnets in general > > > > > > re: increasing flows budget, I'd love to. I think flows is easily the highest impact way for Nouns to spend money. Just unsure given current treasury size if people are willing to stomach more than $50k a month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Builders earn revnet tokens and matching-pool bonuses when they put their revenue into the revnet tree. Launching a revnet will require splitting project tokens with the broader Flows network, ensuring continuous collective growth. Basically, builders put revenue into their revnets because it’s financially smarter to grow together, aligning everyone's incentives around collective success rather than isolated effort." > > > > > > > > > > > > - Any examples or evidence of similar behavior exhibited by any of the flows participants today? Actual hard numbers will be good to know. This currently feels hypothetical. > > > > > > > > - Ideally you would want to get a sliver of qualitative or even better quantitative data regarding demand for such, before introducing such a fundamental upgrade to the protocol. > > > > > > > > Given Nouns is main funding body for flows, currently its grant-making mechanism only utilised by Nouns. > > > > Why not just increase Flows operating budget (more than 40k$/month) in the interim while you prove out this demand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > "Builders earn revnet tokens and matching-pool bonuses when they put their revenue into the revnet tree. Launching a revnet will require splitting project tokens with the broader Flows network, ensuring continuous collective growth. Basically, builders put revenue into their revnets because it’s financially smarter to grow together, aligning everyone's incentives around collective success rather than isolated effort." > > > > > > > > > - Any examples or evidence of similar behavior exhibited by any of the flows participants today? Actual hard numbers will be good to know. This currently feels hypothetical. > > > > > > - Ideally you would want to get a sliver of qualitative or even better quantitative data regarding demand for such, before introducing such a fundamental upgrade to the protocol. > > > > > > Given Nouns is main funding body for flows, currently its grant-making mechanism only utilised by Nouns. > > > Why not just increase Flows operating budget (more than 40k$/month) in the interim while you prove out this demand. > > The premise of solving funding distribution at scale sounds excellent, but I'm afraid it works for repetitive, operational work. I'd wish to see it become a platform to kickstart fully fleshed experiments/PoCs/MVPs that could eventually grow. As of today, having a flow doesn't get you the 'proof of work' enough to then go on-chain, as some claim when pointing out people to start first with a flow. > > I'd prefer to see the current protocol fixed before considering revnets and scaling it. > Both are true imo: Flows needs to evolve to become positive sum and we need to improve the core system. I hear you on improving the core protocol. We work on it every day, and it will remain an ongoing priority. Things like improving impact verification, curator tools, and other problems we've heard from builders always come first and we've been working on them for months. I wrote this proposal to lay out an ambitious 8 month plan to get folks excited about new tech and to address the biggest problem I've felt living and breathing Flows every day. It's not my intention to suggest we are fully distracted from improving the core protocol. It is still a top priority.
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# make flows positive sum 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. Also, most funded projects aren't sustainable. > We are going to solve fundraising and capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # The Fixed-Pie Problem A consistent piece of feedback we've heard from builders: > "How do I earn more money?" We want Flows to be positive-sum, meaning as more builders join and succeed, the total amount of funding increases. Right now, Flows has a fixed budget, creating competition between builders. When one builder earns more, others lose out. ![](https://i.imgur.com/SckG2F5.png) - Earnings are limited by a fixed budget. - People without Nouns can't support builders. - Builders lack long-term financial upside - One builder earns more, others less As Nouns faces a "**breakeven moment",** we must rethink how Flows can grow sustainably and become positive-sum. # Moving towards positive sum Flows should be the most rewarding place for people onchain—financially and through the satisfaction of building something that matters. ![](https://i.imgur.com/pDLGaAz.png) We need a system where one builder’s success helps all builders earn more. To achieve this, we’re adding ways for new capital to enter Flows and for builders to share in a rising tide, rather than fight over a fixed pie. # Proposed solution ![](https://www.revnet.app/assets/img/revnet-full-bw.svg) We believe [revnets](https://rev.eth.sucks/memo/) can help every builder raise money. Revnets are [Juicebox DAOs](https://juicebox.money/) with issuance locked in on launch, and cash-out managed by token ownership. Revnets align project builders, customers and supporters toward long-term success. We plan to convert every Flows TCR into a revnet, and let vetted projects launch revnets denominated in the root TCR token. Since all Flow and Project revnets are priced in a common token, one builder's success benefits everyone. ![](https://i.imgur.com/iXkZvZb.png) The builder experience won't change much. We're mainly adding two simple things— revnets for projects and opportunities to earn more through matching pools. All the complexity is managed in the background. The best part: when someone buys into a revnet, that revenue grows funding for all Flows builders. # Project revnets We plan to let projects with proven track records launch revnets. Builders will have financial upside beyond a fixed salary. These revnets will be denominated in $FLOWs, so when one project succeeds, all other projects benefit. ![](https://i.imgur.com/Ovz7WbJ.png) ## Builders: - Clear path to earn more money. - Long term upside based on success of their projects. - Upside in Flows as a whole even if your project remains small ## Nouns: - Reduce pressure on the Nouns treasury as projects become self-sustaining. - Collaboration among builders, creating stronger incentives for widespread nounish impact. ## Supporters: - Hold tokens backed by real projects with verified impact. - Upside when a project or Flows as a whole succeeds Ultimately, revnet tokens will serve as the fundraising layer for Flows. This pattern of denominating project and TCR revnets in the root revnet token aligns incentives between all builders, and can make Flows positive sum and sustainable in the long run. # Why will builders revnet? ![](https://i.imgur.com/MhnFjny.png) While you could keep 100% of your revenue in your own private wallet, you’d lose out on the liquidity, community engagement, and capital formation that a revnet structure can unlock. For many builders— growing with your users/supporters has higher expected returns (both financially and socially) than going it alone. # TCR token upgrade As a refresher, each flow currently has its own [TCR](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWWC__-Kmso9b7yCI_R7ysoGFIT9D_sfjH3axQsmB6E/edit?tab=t.0) and associated token. ![](https://i.imgur.com/CVPW0oP.png) Our plan is to migrate every TCR token to a revnet and denominate them in the root $FLOWs revnet token. Since every flow TCR will be denominated in $FLOWs, success in one flow (like Beach Cleaning) strengthens all flows, benefiting every builder. # Matching pools and capital input Outside of the revnet implementation, we will upgrade the protocol to enable outside capital to fund flows directly. We also plan to introduce matching pools to encourage cooperation between builders and attract additional capital. Pools could reward all builders in a flow based on overall token sales or donations to their flow relative to other flows. We can also reward builders that "earn the most for Nouns". When builder successfully sells products or mints content, we'll provide simple tools for them to automatically split a portion of revenues—reinforcing a virtuous cycle where success benefits everyone. # Our commitment Today, the monthly budget is limited to $40k from the Nouns treasury. With revnets, each project's token sales and revenue will directly increase available funds, growing the pie for everyone. Ultimately, we believe revnets are an incredible mechanism to align the incentives of all flows builders, attract new capital, and make Flows positive sum. Over the next 8 months, we will build: - The revnet upgrade - Matching pools - Onchain verification of builder impact. - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Regularly incorporate feedback from builders and nouners - **Build what is necessary for Nouns to succeed** We'll measure success by tracking monthly capital raised via revnets and matching pools, as well as the number of quality builders sustainably funded. We will work very hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $50k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. Total ask: $575k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.
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# make flows positive sum 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. Also, most funded projects aren't sustainable. > We are going to solve fundraising and capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # The Fixed-Pie Problem A consistent piece of feedback we've heard from builders: > "How do I earn more money?" We want Flows to be positive-sum, meaning as more builders join and succeed, the total amount of funding increases. Right now, Flows has a fixed budget, creating competition between builders. When one builder earns more, others lose out. ![](https://i.imgur.com/SckG2F5.png) - Earnings are limited by a fixed budget. - People without Nouns can't support builders. - Builders lack long-term financial upside - One builder earns more, others less As Nouns faces a "**breakeven moment",** we must rethink how Flows can grow sustainably and become positive-sum. # Moving towards positive sum Flows should be the most rewarding place for people onchain—financially and through the satisfaction of building something that matters. ![](https://i.imgur.com/pDLGaAz.png) We need a system where one builder’s success helps all builders earn more. To achieve this, we’re adding ways for new capital to enter Flows and for builders to share in a rising tide, rather than fight over a fixed pie. # Proposed solution ![](https://www.revnet.app/assets/img/revnet-full-bw.svg) We believe [revnets](https://rev.eth.sucks/memo/) can help every builder raise money. Revnets are [Juicebox DAOs](https://juicebox.money/) with issuance locked in on launch, and cash-out managed by token ownership. Revnets align project builders, customers and supporters toward long-term success. We plan to convert every Flows TCR into a revnet, and let vetted projects launch revnets denominated in the root TCR token. Since all Flow and Project revnets are priced in a common token, one builder's success benefits everyone. ![](https://i.imgur.com/iXkZvZb.png) The builder experience won't change much. We're mainly adding two simple things— revnets for projects and opportunities to earn more through matching pools. All the complexity is managed in the background. The best part: when someone buys into a revnet, that revenue grows funding for all Flows builders. # Project revnets We plan to let projects with proven track records launch revnets. Builders will have financial upside beyond a fixed salary. These revnets will be denominated in $FLOWs, so when one project succeeds, all other projects benefit. ![](https://i.imgur.com/Ovz7WbJ.png) ## Builders: - Clear path to earn more money. - Long term upside based on success of their projects. - Upside in Flows as a whole even if your project remains small ## Nouns: - Reduce pressure on the Nouns treasury as projects become self-sustaining. - Collaboration among builders, creating stronger incentives for widespread nounish impact. ## Supporters: - Hold tokens backed by real projects with verified impact. - Upside when a project or Flows as a whole succeeds Ultimately, revnet tokens will serve as the fundraising layer for Flows. This pattern of denominating project and TCR revnets in the root revnet token aligns incentives between all builders, and can make Flows positive sum and sustainable in the long run. # Why will builders revnet? ![](https://i.imgur.com/MhnFjny.png) While you could keep 100% of your revenue in your own private wallet, you’d lose out on the liquidity, community engagement, and capital formation that a revnet structure can unlock. For many builders— growing with your users/supporters has higher expected returns (both financially and socially) than going it alone. # TCR token upgrade As a refresher, each flow currently has its own [TCR](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWWC__-Kmso9b7yCI_R7ysoGFIT9D_sfjH3axQsmB6E/edit?tab=t.0) and associated token. ![](https://i.imgur.com/CVPW0oP.png) Our plan is to migrate every TCR token to a revnet and denominate them in the root $FLOWs revnet token. Since every flow TCR will be denominated in $FLOWs, success in one flow (like Beach Cleaning) strengthens all flows, benefiting every builder. # Matching pools and capital input Outside of the revnet implementation, we will upgrade the protocol to enable outside capital to fund flows directly. We also plan to introduce matching pools to encourage cooperation between builders and attract additional capital. Pools could reward all builders in a flow based on overall token sales or donations to their flow relative to other flows. We can also reward builders that "earn the most for Nouns". When builder successfully sells products or mints content, we'll provide simple tools for them to automatically split a portion of revenues—reinforcing a virtuous cycle where success benefits everyone. # Our commitment Today, the monthly budget is limited to $40k from the Nouns treasury. With revnets, each project's token sales and revenue will directly increase available funds, growing the pie for everyone. Ultimately, we believe revnets are an incredible mechanism to align the incentives of all flows builders, attract new capital, and make Flows positive sum. Over the next 8 months, we will build: - The revnet upgrade - Matching pools - Onchain verification of builder impact. - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Regularly incorporate feedback from builders and nouners - **Build what is necessary for Nouns to succeed** We'll measure success by tracking monthly capital raised via revnets and matching pools, as well as the number of quality builders sustainably funded. We will work very hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $50k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. Total ask: $575k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.make-flows.wtf-positive-sumfix up ordering of sections
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# make flows positive sum 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. Also, most funded projects aren't sustainable. > We are going to solve fundraising and capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # The Fixed-Pie Problem A consistent piece of feedback we've heard from builders: > "How do I earn more money?" We want Flows to be positive-sum, meaning as more builders join and succeed, the total amount of funding increases. Right now, Flows has a fixed budget, creating competition between builders. When one builder earns more, others lose out. ![](https://i.imgur.com/SckG2F5.png) - Earnings are limited by a fixed budget. - People without Nouns can't support builders. - Builders lack long-term financial upside - One builder earns more, others less As Nouns faces a "**breakeven moment",** we must rethink how Flows can grow sustainably and become positive-sum. # Moving towards positive sum Flows should be the most rewarding place for people onchain—financially and through the satisfaction of building something that matters. ![](https://i.imgur.com/pDLGaAz.png) We need a system where one builder’s success helps all builders earn more. To achieve this, we’re adding ways for new capital to enter Flows and for builders to share in a rising tide, rather than fight over a fixed pie. # Proposed solution ![](https://www.revnet.app/assets/img/revnet-full-bw.svg) We believe [revnets](https://rev.eth.sucks/memo/) can help every builder raise money. Revnets are [Juicebox DAOs](https://juicebox.money/) with issuance locked in on launch, and cash-out managed by token ownership. Revnets align project builders, customers and supporters toward long-term success. We plan to convert every Flows TCR into a revnet, and let vetted projects launch revnets denominated in the root TCR token. Since all Flow and Project revnets are priced in a common token, one builder's success benefits everyone. ![](https://i.imgur.com/iXkZvZb.png) The builder experience won't change much. We're mainly adding two simple things— revnets for projects and opportunities to earn more through matching pools. All the complexity is managed in the background. The best part: when someone buys into a revnet, that revenue grows funding for all Flows builders. # TCR token upgrade As a refresher, each flow currently has its own [TCR](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWWC__-Kmso9b7yCI_R7ysoGFIT9D_sfjH3axQsmB6E/edit?tab=t.0) and associated token. ![](https://i.imgur.com/CVPW0oP.png) Our plan is to migrate every TCR token to a revnet and denominate them in the root $FLOWs revnet token. Since every flow TCR will be denominated in $FLOWs, success in one flow (like Beach Cleaning) strengthens all flows, benefiting every builder. # Project revnets We plan to let projects with proven track records launch revnets. Builders will have financial upside beyond a fixed salary. These revnets will also be denominated in $FLOWs, so when one project succeeds, all other projects benefit. ![](https://i.imgur.com/Ovz7WbJ.png) ## Builders: - Clear path to earn more money. - Long term upside based on success of their projects. - Upside in Flows as a whole even if your project remains small ## Nouns: - Reduce pressure on the Nouns treasury as projects become self-sustaining. - Collaboration among builders, creating stronger incentives for widespread nounish impact. ## Supporters: - Hold tokens backed by real projects with verified impact. - Upside when a project or Flows as a whole succeeds Ultimately, revnet tokens will serve as the fundraising layer for Flows. This pattern of denominating project and TCR revnets in the root revnet token aligns incentives between all builders, and can make Flows positive sum. # Why will builders revnet? ![](https://i.imgur.com/MhnFjny.png) While you could keep 100% of your revenue in your own private wallet, you’d lose out on the liquidity, community engagement, and capital formation that a revnet structure can unlock. For many builders— growing with your users/supporters has higher expected returns (both financially and socially) than going it alone. # Matching pools and capital input Outside of the revnet implementation, we will upgrade the protocol to enable outside capital to fund flows directly. We also plan to introduce matching pools to encourage cooperation between builders and attract additional capital. Pools could reward all builders in a flow based on overall token sales or donations to their flow relative to other flows. We can also reward builders that "earn the most for Nouns". When builder successfully sells products or mints content, we'll provide simple tools for them to automatically split a portion of revenues—reinforcing a virtuous cycle where success benefits everyone. # Our commitment Today, the monthly budget is limited to $40k from the Nouns treasury. With revnets, each project's token sales and revenue will directly increase available funds, growing the pie for everyone. Ultimately, we believe revnets are an incredible mechanism to align the incentives of all flows builders, attract new capital, and make Flows positive sum. Over the next 8 months, we will build: - The revnet upgrade - Matching pools - Onchain verification of builder impact. - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Regularly incorporate feedback from builders and nouners - **Build what is necessary for Nouns to succeed** We'll measure success by tracking monthly capital raised via revnets and matching pools, as well as the number of quality builders sustainably funded. We will work very hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a small set of exciting impact funded by Flows for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $50k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. Total ask: $575k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.make-flows.wtf-positive-sumtypos and clarity
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# make flows positive sum 8 months ago, we envisioned a better way to fund Nouns builders. Since then, [flows.wtf](https://flows.wtf/) has grown to continuously fund over 200 quality nounish projects. # The problem Funding smaller, non-consensus projects in Nouns DAO is hard. Traditional voting requires majority approval, which limits innovation and doesn't scale. Small-grant incentives don’t prevent free-riders or scammers, and manual oversight isn't viable at scale. Also, most funded projects aren't sustainable. > We are going to solve fundraising and capital allocation for grassroots impact. # Our solution Flows is an open-source protocol combining money streaming, Token Curated Registries (TCRs), AI, and Farcaster to make grant-making continuous, scalable, and financially sustainable. It reduces voter effort, rewards impactful projects, and makes it economically unviable to scam or free-ride. > Our north star is to sustainably fund 1 million quality builders every month. # Recent progress Since our [proposal](https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/697) 4 months ago, we built: # Beautiful project pages Easily understand project goals and activity over time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/jrfdmTt.png) # Dynamic bonus pools A quorum for each flow to allocate funds more effectively. ![](https://imagedelivery.net/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/b28e0d6a-4ff0-4afe-ac90-3e3c9b2fac00/original) # Impact scores Grade every builder's impact in real time. ![](https://i.imgur.com/JNCuAUk.png) # Impact chains Automatic reports of a project's work. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fCkmtnf.png) # Search Vector search over all grants ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/e1c3d5a7-2314-4aa2-394a-e3f622659d00/original) # Impact summary Summarized impact for every project over time ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wmi3rY.png) # Sanctions checks Implemented sanctions check like Nouns AuctionHouseV3 ![](https://i.imgur.com/BahUPy2.png) # Curation infra Basic curation dashboard ![](https://i.imgur.com/RxY3DcZ.png) # Farcaster agents Welcome new projects, send reminders, and support builders on Farcaster. ![](https://i.imgur.com/0TkfF8H.png) # The Fixed-Pie Problem A consistent piece of feedback we've heard from builders: > "How do I earn more money?" We want Flows to be positive-sum, meaning as more builders join and succeed, the total amount of funding increases. Right now, Flows has a fixed budget, creating competition between builders. When one builder earns more, others lose out. ![](https://i.imgur.com/SckG2F5.png) - Earnings are limited by a fixed budget. - People without Nouns can't support builders. - Builders lack long-term financial upside - One builder earns more, others less As Nouns faces a "**breakeven moment",** we must rethink how Flows can grow sustainably and become positive-sum. # Moving towards positive sum Flows should be the most rewarding place for people onchain—financially and through the satisfaction of building something that matters. ![](https://i.imgur.com/pDLGaAz.png) We need a system where one builder’s success helps all builders earn more. To achieve this, we’re adding ways for new capital to enter Flows and for builders to share in a rising tide, rather than fight over a fixed pie. # Proposed solution ![](https://www.revnet.app/assets/img/revnet-full-bw.svg) We believe [revnets](https://rev.eth.sucks/memo/) can help every builder raise money. Revnets are [Juicebox DAO's](https://juicebox.money/) with token issuance locked in on launch, and cash-out managed by token ownership. They help projects align builders, customers and supporters around long term success. We plan to convert every Flows TCR into a revnet, and let vetted projects launch revnets denominated in the root TCR token. This way, when one builder succeeds, everyone else does too. ![](https://i.imgur.com/iXkZvZb.png) The user experience won't change much. We're mainly adding two simple things— revnets for projects and opportunities to earn more through matching pools. All the complexity is managed in the background. The best part: when someone buys into a revnet, that revenue grows funding for all Flows builders due to a setup we explain below. # TCR token upgrade As a refresher, each flow currently has its own [TCR](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWWC__-Kmso9b7yCI_R7ysoGFIT9D_sfjH3axQsmB6E/edit?tab=t.0) and associated token. ![](https://i.imgur.com/CVPW0oP.png) Our plan is to migrate every TCR token to a revnet and denominate them in the root $FLOWs revnet token. Since every flow TCR will be denominated in $FLOWs, success in one flow (like Beach Cleaning) strengthens all flows, benefiting every builder. # Project revnets We plan to let projects with proven track records launch revnets. Builders will have financial upside beyond a fixed salary. These revnets will also be denominated in $FLOWs, so when one project succeeds, all other projects benefit. ![](https://i.imgur.com/Ovz7WbJ.png) ## Builders: - Clear path to earn more money. - Long term upside based on success of their projects. - Upside in Flows as a whole even if your project remains small ## Nouns: - Reduce pressure on the Nouns treasury as projects become self-sustaining. - Collaboration among builders, creating stronger incentives for widespread nounish impact. ## Supporters: - Hold tokens backed by real projects with verified impact. - Upside when a project or Flows as a whole succeeds Ultimately, revnet tokens will serve as the fundraising layer for Flows. This pattern of denominating project and TCR revnets in the root revnet token aligns incentives between all builders, and can make Flows positive sum. # Why will builders revnet? ![](https://i.imgur.com/MhnFjny.png) While you could keep 100% of your revenue in your own private wallet, you’d lose out on the liquidity, community engagement, and capital formation that a revnet structure can unlock. For many builders— growing with your users/supporters has higher expected returns (both financially and socially) than going it alone. # Matching pools and capital input We will upgrade the protocol to enable outside capital to fund flows directly. We also plan to introduce matching pools to encourage cooperation between builders and attract additional capital. Pools could reward all builders in a flow based on overall token sales or donations to their flow relative to other flows. We can also reward builders that "earn the most for Nouns". When builder successfully sells products or mints content, we'll provide simple tools for them to automatically split a portion of revenues with their revnet—reinforcing a virtuous cycle where success benefits everyone. # Our commitment Today, the monthly budget is limited to $40k from the Nouns treasury. With revnets, each project's token sales and revenue will directly increase available funding, growing the pie for everyone. Ultimately, we believe revnets are an incredible mechanism to align the incentives of all flows builders, attract new capital, and make Flows positive sum. Over the next 8 months, we will build: - The revnet upgrade - Matching pools - Onchain verification of builder impact. - Dashboards around Flows capital efficiency - Regularly incorporate feedback from builders and nouners - **Build what is necessary for Nouns to succeed** We'll measure success by tracking monthly capital raised via revnets and matching pools, as well as the number of quality builders sustainably funded. We will work very hard until we have figured out how to sustainably fund grassroots impact onchain. # The team ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/4b933dc9-c975-473d-ac7c-7a894c139000/original) [rocketman](https://warpcast.com/rocketman) and [riderway](https://warpcast.com/riderway.eth). We've been actively building in and around the Nouns space for nearly three years. In that time, we have built an alternative protocol for launching Nounish DAOs, House of Nouns, and Vrbs DAO to name a few. # Questions Have any questions? Want to discuss with us? You can reach me on Warpcast [here](https://warpcast.com/rocketman). # What has Flows funded? Our conviction grows every day that funding Flows is perhaps the most effective use of the Nouns treasury. Nouns is a lot more interesting if we can pay 1000 people \~$100 to go out and have local impact, vs. paying small teams large sums of money (which already happens offchain). We put together a list to highlight a subset of the exciting impact that flows has funded for only $40k/mo over the last 4 months. # Esports ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2Fb11fbaa4-1020-4561-5e3a-91b3a1757a00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Competitive Gaming Success & Support:** Funded and supported multiple esports streamers and events, achieving notable wins (Majestic SSJ in Dota 2 Nounish Cup, multiple undefeated Pokémon UNITE Cup victories, Team Flame win) and qualifying for major championships (Pokémon UNITE NA/EU). 2. **Esports Event Hosting & Streaming:** Organized and streamed various tournaments (Smash Bros in Bristol & Toronto, Starbrawl) with crypto prizes, upgraded streaming gear, and created custom broadcast elements (outro videos). 3. **Live Game Commentary & Analysis:** Provided live commentary for competitive matches (ESL Counter-Strike, ESEA Playoffs, Dota 2 Nounish Cup) often in multiple languages (English/Spanish) featuring Nouns branding. 4. **Gaming Community Tools & Content:** Developed resources like an educational CS2 strategy video, a Discord bot for CS match predictions, and hosted streams specifically for women gamers (Dota 2). # Environmental Action & Sustainability ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/753cde21-9245-4309-c559-a87b8369d100/original) 1. **Large-Scale Beach & Coastal Cleanups:** Organized numerous cleanups removing hundreds of kilograms of trash (over 1000kg total mentioned across various events) from beaches (Boqueirão, Brazilian beaches, Reserva, Praia Grande, Lagoa de Saquarema, Foz do Rio Bacaxá) and mangroves (Ypê Island), removing items like TVs, fridges, and furniture. Also included youth empowerment elements. 2. **Mangrove Restoration:** Planted thousands of mangrove seedlings (15,000 total mentioned) in Tanzania to restore ecosystems and create jobs, documenting with GPS/video. 3. **Recycling & Waste Management Initiatives:** Installed cigarette butt collection stations, Nouns-themed trash bins at community courts, built a greywater recycling system for irrigation, and created art from collected river waste (plastic fish sculptures, eco-puppets). 4. **Sustainable Product Creation:** Developed and showcased eco-friendly products like recycled plastic Noggle eyewear, Noggles keychains (Bangkok), and facilitated workshops teaching kids to make puppets from recycled materials (Caracas). # Community Building, Food Security & Infrastructure ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F60aef4df-14fb-42dd-db61-0a033c635100%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Food Distribution & Support:** Provided hundreds of nutritious meals (Jollof rice, WHO-standard lunches, homeless outreach) to children, elderly, homeless individuals, and their pets in Nigeria and São Paulo. Also restocked a local shop owner's business. 2. **Community Gardens & Greening:** Established and expanded community food forests/gardens (planting fruit trees like pink lemons, figs, peaches, apples, cassava), implemented natural pest control, installed rainwater harvesting, built hydroponic systems (community harvest, balcony garden, vertical bottle garden), planted 150+ trees for biodiversity, and gave away vegetable plants and Noggle pot plants. 3. **Public Space Enhancements & Art:** Created community murals (El Faro, interactive nature theme, handprints, fantasy/sports themes, crypto mural), upgraded public facilities (basketball court net, playground cleanup, safer pathways), restored historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza, ramp repair), built an outdoor radio stage/art space/fire pit, and transformed a car into a mobile Nouns art piece. 4. **Animal Welfare:** Donated food to animal shelters (feeding 100+ rescued animals) and regularly fed stray animals. # Health, Wellness & Safety ![](https://i.imgur.com/BEmi65d.png) 1. **Inclusive Fitness Programs:** Launched and adapted Pilates classes specifically for seniors and those managing obesity/chronic conditions, improving mobility, daily activity, social connection, and managing health issues like high blood pressure. Also offered strength training for chronic illness. 2. **Water Safety & Rescue:** Supported a big wave rescue team (Nazaré) with branded gear alongside major sponsors, provided water rescue certification training (distributing physical Noggles), and received official city recognition for water safety efforts. 3. **Safety Initiatives:** Provided safety helmets for youth skaters (Kampala) and installed a recycled tire barrier to protect skateboarders near roads. Also held a child safety carnival (Medellín). # Crypto ![](https://i.imgur.com/JyBAkqp.png) 1. **Nouns Interfaces & Platforms:** Developed unique interfaces like the Nouns95 retro web app (governance, chat, auction bidding, history) and a Windows 95-style crypto wallet/explorer, integrated safer multisig wallets, and built software for displaying live Nouns auction data (MagicMirror). 2. **DAO Tools & Community Platforms:** Created open-source tools for tracking Nouns DAO data (finance/governance), launched customizable token-gated community spaces ("Nounspaces" on Base), and simplified wallet connections (RainbowKit for Gnars DAO). 3. **Crypto Adoption & Education:** Enabled crypto payments for a BMX store and a vegan skincare line, conducted Web3 workshops (seniors, skaters, women, tribal communities, creatives in Santiago), created an educational video on Futarchy, and hosted crypto mural events with wallet setup guidance. 4. **NFT Creation & Events:** Launched various NFT collections (surf photography, DarkNOUNS merch, live TV performance auction, acoustic concert collectibles, skateboarding photo, 'Cards of Culture'), hosted NFT premiere events (surf film), and released digital Noggles for Veveverse avatars. # Skateboarding Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/yRPPWZ8.png) 1. **Skateboarding Events & Workshops:** Organized youth workshops (building skateboards in Kampala, painting skateboards), supported downhill skateboarders (DHNOUNS project competitions/routes, organized sessions in Bogotá), filmed events (Carnavalong), and hosted community skate sessions. 2. **Skate Spot Development & Restoration:** Restored and improved historic skate spots (São Paulo's "Sopa Square", 40-year-old plaza), repaired ramps adding Noggles graffiti, and built a concrete skate bowl. 3. **Skateboarding Content & Community:** Produced skateboarding films/documentaries (Rio culture, mountain skateboarding, downhill techniques), minted skate photo NFTs, provided safety gear (helmets, tire barriers), onboarded skaters to Web3 platforms (SkateHive), and offered community support (free haircuts). # Surfing Culture ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT0kMvm.png) 1. **Surf Events & Films:** Screened multiple films promoting Web3 for creators 2. **Surfer Support & Content:** Provided custom Nouns/Gnars branded surfboards for a pro surfer (Bali), documented big wave surfing and safety training (Nazaré), released a vlog with Nathan Florence (Brazil), and supported youth surf mentorship (Projeto TPM, kids' first solo waves). # Art, Music & Creative Expression ![](https://flows.wtf/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagedelivery.net%2FBXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw%2F19210e31-42a1-4ded-8208-8ee0802c5d00%2Foriginal&w=3840&q=75) 1. **Live Music & Performances:** Funded and organized live music events ("The Pond Party," blockchain concert in London with interactive elements, Caribbean fusion show, electronic music with Nounish visuals, Pablo Kappes Noggles premiere), hosted NFT-gated concerts, and ran a Nouns Music Training Camp for emerging bands (Chile). 2. **Physical Art & Merchandise:** Created handmade items (crochet duck/Noggle plushies, custom painted denim jacket), physical Noggles (glow-in-the-dark, custom graffiti, global kits, distributed at events), eco-art (recycled sculptures, puppets), a metal "Nogglestacle" sculpture, tote bags, Noggle bookmarks, Nouns mugs, and shipped the first /noc physical product. 3. **Creative Workshops & Contests:** Held eco-puppet workshops for kids (Caracas), a logo design contest (Nounish Tales Philippines), and distributed Noggles at creative/Web3 events (Santiago). 4. **Unique Brand Activations:** Organized a luxury car cruise featuring noggles. # Unique Educational & Documentation Projects ![](https://wrpcd.net/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/BXluQx4ige9GuW0Ia56BHw/c4abba12-89b0-4e92-4513-ccb9af2c5c00/original) 1. **Specialized Content & Documentation:** Documented an athlete's injury recovery (Naomi Metzger sprints), filmed a breakdancing documentary (Lil Gnars), created a Patagonia kayak adventure vlog, produced motivational sports videos, and created an AI song tutorial led by a child. 2. **Unique Workshops & Events:** Taught practical tech skills to seniors, held a solar eclipse viewing event for children, hosted a metaphysics & music session exploring AI/ancestral knowledge, and organized a pickleball event 3. **Food education:** Healthy food cooking, and shopping education for youth in Brazil Flows made all of this happen and more. All for a relatively small amount of money compared to what Nouns has spent so far. # Funding request $20k USDC a month to continue building Flows, split between riderway and rocketman ($10k a month per person) for 8 months. $15k USDC to cover legal advice, Marshall Islands DAO incorporation (via MIDAO), and tax expert consultation to ensure we structure Flows compliantly. Any unused funds from this allocation will be returned to the DAO. Finally, we are requesting $50k a month for the next 8 months to fund flows builders. Total ask: $575k USDC Let's bring the makers together and complete the virtuous cycle, -- rocketman ### # Compliance and Legal Plan The ethos of crypto (and Flows) is decentralization, immutability, openness, and borderlessness. Recognizing Nouns DAO's U.S. base and the complexities of global funding, we are implementing the following measures to ensure Flows operates responsibly and compliantly: **Establish DAO LLC:** We are forming a DAO LLC in the RMI. This provides limited liability protection for our team and formally establishes Flows as a distinct international entity, clarifying its operational jurisdiction. **Implement Robust Sanctions Screening:** We implemented automated sanctions checks to continuously screen all recipient wallets against OFAC and other relevant sanctions lists. **Pathway to Decentralized Governance:** Flows currently operates as a decentralized grant giving program, with no one in charge of how funds are dispersed. We are committed to progressively decentralizing the control of Flows protocol contracts as well. **Clarify Tax Responsibility:** Our system explicitly assigns the responsibility for all tax reporting and payments to the grant recipients according to their local laws. Recipients will be clearly notified of this requirement. The Flows protocol itself is not structured to manage individual tax withholding globally. We are open to working with the DUNA on this. **Commitment to Compliance:** We are committed to navigating the regulatory landscape proactively and adapting as needed. We will work closely with Nouns DAO and seek guidance to ensure Flows operates responsibly while advancing towards greater decentralization.make-flows.wtf-positive-sumSimplifed, added fun ghibli infographics, separated txns
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